Seriously why was this flagged? Can't there be some level of criticism without it being censored? Jesus christ anything not in the best interest of making YC money will be crushed.
I agree, not sure why this was flagged. The title is clickbait, but it seems this guy genuinely does hate hackerrank. fair enough.
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#112Here's how I was assessed for my job at Pivotal: 1. I did a simple tech screen (the RPI). 1 hour. My interviewer had a laptop and asked me questions about what to do next in the scenario. 2. Hey, come pair with this engineer on this real code on a real project on a real task. 3. How about lunch? 4. Hey, let's have you pair with this other engineer on real code on a real project on a real task. 5. Get offered a job on…
What I've been doing which is similar is hiring the dev on contract for a short term to see if it works out. But I think this approach is much more efficient. Do you get and check references?
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree, not sure why this was flagged. The title is clickbait, but it seems this guy genuinely does hate hackerrank. fair enough.
Because its bad PR for hacker rank. That's why it was flagged.
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#114Here's how I was assessed for my job at Pivotal: 1. I did a simple tech screen (the RPI). 1 hour. My interviewer had a laptop and asked me questions about what to do next in the scenario. 2. Hey, come pair with this engineer on this real code on a real project on a real task. 3. How about lunch? 4. Hey, let's have you pair with this other engineer on real code on a real project on a real task. 5. Get offered a job on…
I really like this approach and I reading about it here makes me inspired to try it on our next hire. We do pair programming, so it would work well for us. What I've been doing which is similar is hiring the dev on contract for a short term to see if it works out. But I think this approach is much more efficient. Do you get and check references?
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#115Seriously why was this flagged? Can't there be some level of criticism without it being censored? Jesus christ anything not in the best interest of making YC money will be crushed.
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
On the flip side, now you have no idea if a developer is any good, because all they have to do is memorize a bunch of garbage interview algo techniques / questions.
I think this mentality is actually wrong. I've definitely met good engineers who were rejected for jobs they were qualified for because of these questions, but I've never met someone who was extremely good at these questions who turned out to be a dud after hiring. I don't disagree with the hate towards the current interview process at larger companies, preferring take homes myself, but I think it's harmful to say th…
I have. More than once I've brought on folks who aced algorithm questions but turned out couldn't handle complex business logic. They could basically only understand code that fit on a page / screenful. Anything beyond that and they floundered.
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#117I face this problem. I am into server side scripting and automation and this hardly involves algos and stuff. The problem doesn't seem to lie with hackerrank but with one-size-fits-all HR approach. I would also pin the blame on lack of understanding on the part of HR personnel (they seem to be the drivers behind recruitment drives) of how the tech landscape is.They need to educate themselves on what sorta interview p…
That seems... limiting. Are you sure you want to specialize that much, and rule out doing any programming that does require understanding something about algorithms?
Without time constraints I am able to solve the problems.
Timed Algo assessments are very similar to exams u write in universities.. u need to keep practicing to complete those assessments in time and get a "pass mark".
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#118It could be worse. My personal recruiting peeve is what I call the "Dunning-Kruger interview", where they ask algorithm questions they don't understand and don't even realize that fact . It is unfortunately common, and made doubly worse when it is plainly my area of expertise and the reason I was recruited in the first place. More than once, I've been recruited by executives at Famous Tech Company to run major new in…
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Do you find that you can determine a person's technical skills from such a discussion? I've found that I'm not very good at determining such things from just talking. Often I talk with people who sound like they know what they're doing, only to find out later that they don't. As for coffee - do you ask your interviewees if they want that? I don't drink coffee and generally hate coffee shops because the only other opt…
To your latter point, any time we do technical exercises, we _always_ let the interviewee use their own IDE. Nowadays it's easy because most people have laptops, though we do offer to set one up if they do not have a laptop to bring. Their choice of toolsets and setup can also be a really interesting discussion topic. More than once during an interview, someone has shown me something really cool that I adopted (new k…
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To your latter point, any time we do technical exercises, we _always_ let the interviewee use their own IDE. Nowadays it's easy because most people have laptops, though we do offer to set one up if they do not have a laptop to bring. Their choice of toolsets and setup can also be a really interesting discussion topic. More than once during an interview, someone has shown me something really cool that I adopted (new k…
What if the candidate doesn't have a machine of their own (company owned)?