In most cases I'd worry, but I think Gabriel is trustworthy and long-term focused.
DuckDuckGo announces partnership with Yahoo
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Re: DuckDuckGo announces partnership with Yahoo
#112I want to use DDG. I've made it my default search engine. But the result page is just so slow. Both in slow to load (v Google), and actual responsiveness. It's just slightly laggy, or at least it feels like that. Google has neither problem. I'm willing to put up with not-excellent relevancy, but the slowness is killing me. I'm using FF 49 64-bit on Win8. Am I anomalous or does anyone else feel this at all?
I've noticed that DDG is maybe twice as slow as Google (still damn fast), and much faster than the links returned in the results. That said, I have recently noticed that occasionally, no results load at all, and I F5-it.
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
TIL! I didn't realize they ran an AWS stack. I've been using DDG for years (use !g about 1/3 of the time I think), and I just like having the alternative. I wish we had more search engines, but I also realize the barrier to entry is really high. Using AWS does make a lot of sense in their market. I thought their primary index was Yandex though, and they purchased supplemental data from Yahoo and Google?
Supertip: Use !sp instead of !g to get googles results but without the tracking.
Protip for the supertip: I just use !s for startpage. One keystroke lesser. :) It's the one I use most of the time.
Although my default search engine is DDG, for my use (technical and otherwise, with date based searches) DDG is still more like a toy that doesn't provide me the relevant results more than half the time. So I stick to startpage most of the time and sometimes use Google directly (with tracking related precautions/protections taken).
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just want to point out that although that may be a model for many startups, DuckDuckGo is already profitable through (non-tracking) advertising and affiliate revenue. More info: https://duck.co/help/company/advertising-and-affiliates Disclaimer: DDG staff
youdontknowtho is shadowbanned.
No he isn't?
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#115Re: DuckDuckGo announces partnership with Yahoo
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't that basically the MO of every startup? * Offer something for free, with VC money. * Gain market share since you don't need to worry about profit. * Realise you need to make money, so start turning into the companies you stole market share from.
Just want to point out that although that may be a model for many startups, DuckDuckGo is already profitable through (non-tracking) advertising and affiliate revenue. More info: https://duck.co/help/company/advertising-and-affiliates Disclaimer: DDG staff
I don't want to be rude, but I don't think DuckDuckGo has actually taken much market share to worry about yet, so maybe it's not following the usual startup route.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just want to point out that although that may be a model for many startups, DuckDuckGo is already profitable through (non-tracking) advertising and affiliate revenue. More info: https://duck.co/help/company/advertising-and-affiliates Disclaimer: DDG staff
I don't want to be rude, but I don't think DuckDuckGo has actually taken much market share to worry about yet, so maybe it's not following the usual startup route.
Does it matter if it's following the "usual startup route"? If it's profitable, and it hasn't compromised on it's values, then it's winning.
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#118Always loved DuckDuckgo - kinda came across as a search engine that didn't seek to takeover the world, and only sought to fill a (necessary) niche. That seems more genuine than "don't be evil".
Google originally won everyone over with superior results, the rest of it came pretty organically. The underdog is always everyone's favorite until they somehow wind up on top.
As I recall, when I started using Google in the late 90's,
it was fast, amazingly fast, and that was in the days of a clunky internet.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
So they data mine this traffic at the nameserver level, just to reasonably say that DDG doesn't share info? What does this mean? If you mean nameservers might get to see your IP, that isn't true. At most they'll see your primary DNS resolver's IP, but if you use Google DNS or Open DNS they will only see that (I've implemented CDNs, and this is a very big problem for them if they operate at the DNS level - which most…
> if you use Google DNS > Afraid to give Google my search queries >> I'll give them all of my DNS lookups instead
So... don't? Just use your default ISP resolvers?
Depending on what threat you are trying to avoid there are options here. The OPs threat assessment was wrong, though.
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#120Why do they say "duckduckgo-owned"? It appears they are using AWS. Who really owns the server? echo 50.18.192.251 duckduckgo.com >> /etc/hosts Avoids needless DNS lookups; saves DNS logs from your footprints.
... and will break as soon as that instance is shut down.
That's why I'd prefer a search engine that was not using AWS, or Yahoo. Too many needless dependencies.
Out of curiousity I'm starting a counter today. Will post something when this IP addr fails. Feel free to take a guess how long it will be used by DDG.
And when it does change, if ever, I have a one line shell script that uses ed to remove entries from files, so all it takes to add a new IP addr to HOSTS is typing
ed-script-name domain-name /etc/hosts
echo aa.bb.cc.dd domain-name >> /etc/hosts
For example, the IP address for HN rarely changes.
But feel free to keep looking it up in DNS every day. Just in case.
If there are problems with DNS, most users will probably not remember the IP address for HN and will not be able to read the stories.
Meanwhile, the user that stores IP addresses as a backup will have no such problems.