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Yelp Fired a Single Mother Today: Me

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A realisation I made quite early whilst growing up is that the system is set up to make the working class look like crazy fools.

In Britain it's basically the hallmark of being middle class - politeness, stiff upper lip.

This article does read badly, it sounds irrational, crazy, angry. And that's rational and makes sense.

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To me, the only difference between this woman's work environment and slavery, seems the lack of chains.

And of course the fundamental fact that she chose to work here and that a slave did not have a choice, except to not obey his master and be beaten or murdered.

A slave could have chosen not to work and would have been beaten. She could have chosen not to work and wouldn't have been able to feed herself and her children. To me this looks like a situation which is at least related. Not exactly the same, but not completely different.

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Is "single mother" some kind of minority status she keeps repeating at every sentence?

It doesn't have to be a "status" - it's her actual life. Employers and managers should be sensitive to their employees' needs (and I say this as an employer). It's not all about the law and ticking boxes. Yes, a low paid single mother does deserve more leeway than a middle aged childless white guy in the office whether or not the law says so.

Your middle aged childless white guy may well have caring responsibilities to his elderly parents or disabled sibling, which he didn't feel comfortable telling you about as you appear to be unsympathetic to some kinds of employees.

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It is not the case that people at Yelp find it great joy in firing people. When a person did not turn up for work for three days some HR manager gleefully typed out a termination later and hifived all his co-workers. I don't think that is the case. Hiring someone costs money and so does termination. Unless I know the Yelp's side of the story I wouldn't buy her version. It is possible that she failed to inform her sup…

> It is possible that she has a long history of staying absent from work. She did. She'd only been working there from December, used up all her sick-days while still in training, and missed even more days in the following months. One time she missed work because she couldn't find her car keys. It sounds like her manager got fed up and that was the end of it. Being a single parent is hard.

  > One time she missed work because she couldn't find her car keys.
You mean she was late because her 3 yr old child hid her keys in the hopes of spending more time with his mother. Completely unacceptable indeed.

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Ok, so how they treat their employees sucks. Now comes the famous but . Why did she take a job she could not afford - from what I understand she's making a monthly loss of $700 + groceries, gas, etc. Why move to SF, to take a sales job you can't afford? More importantly, a job you knew would be making you an unsustainable loss before you even took it! With a kid in tow this just seems irresponsible. Now you can talk…

In that case nobody should ever go to college ever. If you don't think you can get into a top school, another way to find a way up the ladder is to find a position at a top start-up you believe will lead somewhere better. $1k/month for a year whilst building experience is a cheap way to get yourself into a position that might pay $100k/year if you work hard, especially compared to college. Stop blaming her. Look at h…

Imho, if you are a single parent, maybe you should postpone collage too. She was losing at least $1700 a month.

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Please help me understand your point of view.

When my father died last year, I was immediately offered (without me even asking for) up to two weeks payed leave. And they didn't call me the next day to give me an ultimatum. Of course the company didn't care that my father died. No one outside of my team even knew. But my immediate supervisor did. And he did everything he could to help me get through. Because he's a human, not a corporate drone. However deep or sh…

> When my father died last year

I'm sorry. :(

> I was immediately offered (without me even asking for) up to two weeks payed leave.

That was really good of them. My hope is that the author (and everyone) will choose to work for a company that would be as good to her as yours was to you.

But a job is just an offer. The employer can't ensure that the offer makes sense for any individual's situation. I personally think Yelp's offer totally sucks, but my situation is different from others', so I look for whether or not they were deceptive or failed to hold up their end of the deal. Were they? Right now I'm not seeing it.

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You're right However they can't complain when people realize they're paying to work there Oh yeah people get in accidents and get sick, Yelp should hire only perfect human beings I guess

We all got problems. Why should Yelp be responsible for her problems?

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Currently in the process of moving the family back to the US from Sweden, and this is one of the things that scares me the most about life in US. At most workplaces, managers treat you like cattle, and people in IT are still so blessed when I compare to the crap my wife had to go through working hospitality/restaurants and hospitals.. The situation is unacceptable.

Still, sure there are great companies in the US that emulate perks and benefits that you take for granted in the rest of the western world, but for the most part, I have always felt I've needed to start my own business to rid myself of this craziness and be able to afford myself some basic measure of work/life balance.

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> It is possible that she has a long history of staying absent from work. She did. She'd only been working there from December, used up all her sick-days while still in training, and missed even more days in the following months. One time she missed work because she couldn't find her car keys. It sounds like her manager got fed up and that was the end of it. Being a single parent is hard.

"used up all her sick days" ... the whole idea that sick days are something you can run out of is so .. wrong.

Well, to be honest some countries don't have unjustified sick days, you can take unlimited ones, but with a doctor's note, otherwise it's taken out of your pay

Re: Yelp Fired a Single Mother Today: Me

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Well Yelp didn't vote for her to be a single mom, or for her BF to go on a risky outdoor activity to get injured, or for her to take a loan @ 300% interest (lol wat?). For some reason people seem to think they deserve special treatment for the choices that they made that didn't turn out so well. Yelp is a company. Its relation with her is that of business, service in exchange for currency on agreed upon work conditio…

Exactly my thoughts. Also I don't understand the "single mom" part. Society does not owe any special treatment to a single mom, not more than any other mom. Single mother is a choice of an independent woman and if she cant afford it she should probably not make it. Instead of being thankful for an employer to have given an opportunity in first place she is ranting against her employer, this is going to make it diffic…

> . I wont hire such a person.

I wouldn't hire someone with as little compassion and humanity as you. I feel as if you're projecting your anger for some reason.

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