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Yelp Fired a Single Mother Today: Me

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Re: Yelp Fired a Single Mother Today: Me

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well Yelp didn't vote for her to be a single mom, or for her BF to go on a risky outdoor activity to get injured, or for her to take a loan @ 300% interest (lol wat?). For some reason people seem to think they deserve special treatment for the choices that they made that didn't turn out so well. Yelp is a company. Its relation with her is that of business, service in exchange for currency on agreed upon work conditio…

Exactly my thoughts. Also I don't understand the "single mom" part. Society does not owe any special treatment to a single mom, not more than any other mom. Single mother is a choice of an independent woman and if she cant afford it she should probably not make it. Instead of being thankful for an employer to have given an opportunity in first place she is ranting against her employer, this is going to make it diffic…

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Re: Yelp Fired a Single Mother Today: Me

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post #6

To me, the only difference between this woman's work environment and slavery, seems the lack of chains.

And of course the fundamental fact that she chose to work here and that a slave did not have a choice, except to not obey his master and be beaten or murdered.

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post #67

Is "single mother" some kind of minority status she keeps repeating at every sentence?

It doesn't have to be a "status" - it's her actual life. Employers and managers should be sensitive to their employees' needs (and I say this as an employer). It's not all about the law and ticking boxes. Yes, a low paid single mother does deserve more leeway than a middle aged childless white guy in the office whether or not the law says so.

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post #26

If consistently treated this poorly, why would one not leave the job and go elsewhere, especially if rent + said job puts you in the red? Not to excuse yelp of anything, but if you don't feel you are valued you are the one responsible for bettering your situation.

Most likely she doesn't know how to find jobs elsewhere. Learning to manage a career is a skill all of itself (which for that matter is a skill I am still learning).

So while she could do that, it's not always easy to figure out.

Re: Yelp Fired a Single Mother Today: Me

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I really don't see it as a problem with Yelp. Yelp is doing everything in its best interests - even if its inhumane, immoral and scummy. I see it as a problem with a completely broken social care system in the US which is just utter bullshit, no guaranteed maternity leave is not something you would normally accuse a "1st" world country of.

Re: Yelp Fired a Single Mother Today: Me

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It's stories like this that cause everyone in Europe except the blind SV worshippers and libertarian fundamentalists to just shrug and shake their heads every time a rant comes up about how the US is so much better for startups and entrepreneurs. And this thread is just full of sociopaths blaming the victim. SV culture disgusts me.

  >And this thread is just full of sociopaths blaming the victim.
It's better to not think of it as blaming the victim, but rather offering advice on how to avoid that problem in the future. Even if the tone of the advice is rather negative...

Re: Yelp Fired a Single Mother Today: Me

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Not to distract from the content of the piece, but she took a 300% loan? THREE HUNDRED PERCENT? Could she have gotten a better loan? I'm under the impression that most banks offer loans at more reasonable rates. Also, how is Yelp able to retain salespeople in the Bay Area if they pay only $2k/month? The salary is clearly under the cost of living. On topic: please don't let all the particularities of this case distrac…

Wow, I checked it out, I didn't realize it but payday loans can be up to 400%: http://www.consumerfinance.gov/askcfpb/1567/what-payday-loan... Brutal.

In the UK, Wonga.com charges 1500% interest on payday loans. If you take it for longer than few days you are insane

https://wonga.com/

Re: Yelp Fired a Single Mother Today: Me

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post #85
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All those points are irrelevant though - they're not part of the story here. The author isn't asking for a pay rise to make up the difference in what she earns compared to what she pays out, or for help looking after her child. She's not looking for any special treatment. All of those things are a distraction from the real point of the post: She wants an employer who's compassionate enough not to fire her for being h…

If we made a list of every large company that violated a reasonable code of human morality.. the wheel was spun and today's public outrage is at Yelp. This stuff happens all the time. Sure we get outraged at the random story we come across every now and then, but largely we are numb to it. I just think the most valuable thing we can do to prevent these situations is have deeper discussions on the macro level instead…

I'm British and living in the UK, so under law I can't be fired for taking time off for an emergency with any of my dependents, and I'm entitled to "parental leave" for things like appointments[1]. This is the absolute minimum I would expect a country to afford its citizens.

This is how this problem should be dealt with at the macro level. I find it saddening to see the micro-level impact of not having these sorts of laws in place.

[1] https://www.gov.uk/time-off-for-dependants/your-rights

Re: Yelp Fired a Single Mother Today: Me

#100
post #43

How can you take a job where you make 2k/month and pay rent of 2.5k + 1.2k daycare. That sounds unsustainable. And a 300% loan...what? Company culture at Yelp sounds horrible. Tell someone they can come in or get fired over the phone while they are in the ICU is pretty bad. The other stuff mentioned is also bad.

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