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Re: PayPal CTO Resigns

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Post by newjersey »

anupamsr wrote: post #99
hinkley wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And when that growth stops, it's too late to fix the problems. If you can keep things teetering along for a couple more years you can get a few bonuses cash out and leave before it all falls over. It's the same story everywhere. I wish that it weren't.

Yes but when would _that_ happen? Growth will slow down when: 1) Either they have captured almost all of the market 2) Or they have a better competitor which washes them away Iff (1) happens, they will not go under as they will a 'large' bank and will most likely be 'too big to fail'. And I don't think (2) is happening fast enough.

2) I imagine this is what the politicking people are supposed to work on to gain an interest in the competition.

Re: PayPal CTO Resigns

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Post by happywolf »

mrweasel wrote: post #90
dangrossman wrote: post #18

PayPal's redesigned their UI two or three times in the past decade or so. None of those redesigns have made it to business accounts yet. I still log in and see the same site I did in the early 2000s. I really, really understand that their business is enormously complex, operating in hundreds of different markets, but... you'd think some of the improvements would trickle down eventually . It's a real challenge for the…

>None of those redesigns have made it to business accounts yet. We get sort of half old, half new, depending on where you click. Neither interfaces are any good though.

It depends on where you are, and for some countries only certain % of the population will get it as it ramps up slowly. For some products, the new isn't ready so it falls back to the old stack. It could be due to the ramp, WIP, or just that the old code is too old to the extent no one wants/dares to modify it.

Re: PayPal CTO Resigns

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Post by chadscira »

dangrossman wrote: post #18

PayPal's redesigned their UI two or three times in the past decade or so. None of those redesigns have made it to business accounts yet. I still log in and see the same site I did in the early 2000s. I really, really understand that their business is enormously complex, operating in hundreds of different markets, but... you'd think some of the improvements would trickle down eventually . It's a real challenge for the…

You can call them and ask them to upgrade your profile. I was seeing this UI until I requested they upgrade me a few months ago.

Re: PayPal CTO Resigns

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Post by imron »

dangrossman wrote: post #18

PayPal's redesigned their UI two or three times in the past decade or so. None of those redesigns have made it to business accounts yet. I still log in and see the same site I did in the early 2000s. I really, really understand that their business is enormously complex, operating in hundreds of different markets, but... you'd think some of the improvements would trickle down eventually . It's a real challenge for the…

They keep upgrading my business account to use the new version and I invariably have to switch it back after a couple of days because it's missing (or I can't easily find) various features that I rely upon.

I'm very grateful that unlike some other services they at least give me the option to keep switching back to the 'classic' view.

Re: PayPal CTO Resigns

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Post by dhimes »

novapioneer wrote: post #109

http://recode.net/2015/08/31/top-paypal-executive-hill-fergu... > Hill Ferguson, a top executive and officer who was SVP of PayPal’s consumer business, has stepped down, he announced in a post on Facebook earlier today. Bill Ready, who was Ferguson’s counterpart for the merchant side of PayPal’s ecosystem, is gaining more control and will now run product and engineering for the entire company, a spokesman said in a s…

Well, it's a mystery to me. What do you see?

Re: PayPal CTO Resigns

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Post by imron »

MarkMc wrote: post #107
dangrossman wrote: post #18

PayPal's redesigned their UI two or three times in the past decade or so. None of those redesigns have made it to business accounts yet. I still log in and see the same site I did in the early 2000s. I really, really understand that their business is enormously complex, operating in hundreds of different markets, but... you'd think some of the improvements would trickle down eventually . It's a real challenge for the…

Tangentally, does anyone know how to show a running balance in PayPal, similar to a bank statement. I can get a list of transactions, but there doesn't seem to be a 'Balance' column, and it's not obvious which transactions affect the balance.

Switch back to the 'classic' view. That's the only way I could find to do it.

Re: PayPal CTO Resigns

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Post by dhimes »

MarkMc wrote: post #107
dangrossman wrote: post #18

PayPal's redesigned their UI two or three times in the past decade or so. None of those redesigns have made it to business accounts yet. I still log in and see the same site I did in the early 2000s. I really, really understand that their business is enormously complex, operating in hundreds of different markets, but... you'd think some of the improvements would trickle down eventually . It's a real challenge for the…

Tangentally, does anyone know how to show a running balance in PayPal, similar to a bank statement. I can get a list of transactions, but there doesn't seem to be a 'Balance' column, and it's not obvious which transactions affect the balance.

I thought there was a balance option on that same table.

Edit: Link on mine is: All Activity (with balance)

Re: PayPal CTO Resigns

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Post by peteretep »

dangrossman wrote: post #30
tyingq wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do a lot of things with business accounts that is irritating. For example: - they should be able to remove the annoying "USE PAYPAL CREDIT FOR THIS??!?!?!?!?!" overlay. - show transaction ids on the payment confirmation page, rather than making us navigate to a 2 more pages after paying Oh, and not sure if this is related to just business accounts, but I have to log in twice to get logged in. Some kind of cookie…

> I have to log in twice to get logged in. I've had to log in twice for months as well. I can't comprehend their leaving something so basic broken this long. > And, lastly, since I see you have a few disputes/chargebacks...their chargeback handling process is horrid. I have no beef with their chargeback handling myself. It's something more ridiculous actually. Those 5 "open cases" are cases I opened against a hosting…

    > I can't comprehend their
    > leaving something so basic
    > broken this long.
Hipmunk have been showing economy fares for business searches for weeks, and fixing it is apparently on their backlog, but not very high up. It's made their site completely useless, and their fare alerts pointless.

Do companies just get complacent, or fire off everything but a skeleton staff to keep servers running after they've got an MVP?

Re: PayPal CTO Resigns

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Post by novapioneer »

dhimes wrote: post #115
novapioneer wrote: post #109

http://recode.net/2015/08/31/top-paypal-executive-hill-fergu... > Hill Ferguson, a top executive and officer who was SVP of PayPal’s consumer business, has stepped down, he announced in a post on Facebook earlier today. Bill Ready, who was Ferguson’s counterpart for the merchant side of PayPal’s ecosystem, is gaining more control and will now run product and engineering for the entire company, a spokesman said in a s…

Well, it's a mystery to me. What do you see?

politics? power grab? the new guys coming in and pushing out the old?

even battlehack, which started in 2013, which is probably one of the best things PP did for developers in recent years is awfully quiet now

Re: PayPal CTO Resigns

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Post by emodendroket »

WatchDog wrote: post #108
ern wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

PayPal won a lot of praise a couple of years ago for rewriting their code in Node.js and the phenomenal productivity improvements that supposedly brought. I wonder if the complaints we see on this thread mean the honeymoon between PayPal and node.js is over.

If I remember the discussion correctly, it seemed to center on the node code still being very slow despite being faster than the java system it replaced. People commented that the increase in speed may of simply been due to the act of rewriting the system and not being tied down by in house framework rather than any favorable property of node.js

I don't see why you would expect node.js to be faster than anything else; despite all the time that's been poured into it I'd think JavaScript is still inherently difficult to optimize (and I'd guess they also need to do a lot of extra work to deal with numbers in the proper precision since they are handling money).
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