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Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by drzaiusapelord »

bane wrote: post #70
gorena wrote: post #11

"Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus." -Steve Jobs

This is Apple definitely responding to high-end pressure from increasingly successful Surfaces in the same way the iPad mini was a response to pressure from the low-end by small Android tablets. This is basically Apple saying "let's make a Surface with a bigger screen and do it the Apple way". It's weird seeing Microsoft participate in it. Other than size, there's not much that Android tablets need to respond to, the…

Your list adds up to $1070. That's no low end laptop. $399-599 is low to mid end laptop nowadays. Most Chromebooks kick in at under $300 now also.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by webXL »

api wrote: post #87

Not excited at all. Mobile OSes are crippled by design, especially iOS, so why would I spend this much when I can just get a real computer with a very similar form factor? Mobile OSes are fundamentally designed for quick, limited interaction use cases like ordering an Uber car or checking a web site, not for "real work." I'm sure someone will buy it, but I don't predict it'll be very big.

Just like the top of line products from any company. They fill a niche, and they're more about gaining a competitive edge than they are about generating tons of profit. You see one in a coffee shop, go to the store (instead of a competitor's) and see the price, and walk out with an Air 2.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by dragonwriter »

bane wrote: post #70
gorena wrote: post #11

"Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus." -Steve Jobs

This is Apple definitely responding to high-end pressure from increasingly successful Surfaces in the same way the iPad mini was a response to pressure from the low-end by small Android tablets. This is basically Apple saying "let's make a Surface with a bigger screen and do it the Apple way". It's weird seeing Microsoft participate in it. Other than size, there's not much that Android tablets need to respond to, the…

> but it fires shots across the bow of also increasingly popular Chromebooks which are around this price point.

The price point is more like (a little under) the at-release Surface Pro than popular Chromebooks (its a little cheaper than the Chromebook Pixel, but that's not really the big seller -- the popular models are at the low end.)

Both by form factor and price, this seems more to be competing more with the big "pro" tablets that the Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 (slightly cheaper) and the Surface Pro (3 was slightly more expensive at release, 4 probably will be too, 3 is slightly less expensive right now) than Chromebooks.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by pat2man »

Jack000 wrote: post #110

Personally all I really want is a macbook air with retina. I feel like apple has really been resting on its laurels the last few years. During the Jobsian era they'd come up with a new, category-defining product every few years. Now all we get is yearly updates of existing product lines. well, here's hoping for a "one more thing" moment.

Isn't that the MacBook? http://www.apple.com/macbook/

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by erikpukinskis »

gorena wrote: post #11

"Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus." -Steve Jobs

Wasn't he talking about the iPhone, not the iPad? At that time the dominant mobile platform was PDAs with styluses. I'm pretty sure that's the context in which he made those remarks.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by oxide »

bane wrote: post #70
gorena wrote: post #11

"Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus." -Steve Jobs

This is Apple definitely responding to high-end pressure from increasingly successful Surfaces in the same way the iPad mini was a response to pressure from the low-end by small Android tablets. This is basically Apple saying "let's make a Surface with a bigger screen and do it the Apple way". It's weird seeing Microsoft participate in it. Other than size, there's not much that Android tablets need to respond to, the…

1k for a low-end laptop? come on now, that's not even close.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by FilterSweep »

revscat wrote: post #55
wnevets wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> While I do agree Jobs was saying that no one wants to use a stylus to use their devices, you have to admit this stylus is a pretty good idea. The apple distortion field is running at maximum.

No. No one wants to be required to use a stylus to successfully use a device. This is true, and remains so. What has become apparent is that there is a need -- especially for artists -- for a tool more fine-grained than a finger if you want to do more complicated tasks.

> especially for artists

See also (from this same thread): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10192958

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by Gracana »

ant6n wrote: post #31
gorena wrote: post #11

"Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus." -Steve Jobs

And it's not a Wacom-like active digitizer, you need to actually charge this thing. I feel the stylus that came with Windows XP tablet edition in 2002 was probably better than this.

My surface also uses a battery in the stylus.
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