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Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0

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Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0

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Post by kidsil »

sebastianconcpt wrote: post #17

Meteor is great, I can't create a web app with other stacks faster than with Meteor. My record was saving the day with a demo in less than 1 hour. I'm glad is more mature. The only thing I miss is Postgres as alternative to MongoDB. Mongo is really comfortable but some projects needs Postgres badassness. Should be doable for Meteor's team since Postgres is now super friendly to JSON. I guess the main challenge is in…

I'm actually trying to do something very similar. I'm considering using StrongLoop for a super simple API and connecting Meteor to that.

anyone tried something similar?

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Post by [deleted] »

sebastianconcpt wrote: post #17

Meteor is great, I can't create a web app with other stacks faster than with Meteor. My record was saving the day with a demo in less than 1 hour. I'm glad is more mature. The only thing I miss is Postgres as alternative to MongoDB. Mongo is really comfortable but some projects needs Postgres badassness. Should be doable for Meteor's team since Postgres is now super friendly to JSON. I guess the main challenge is in…

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Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0

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Post by [deleted] »

primigenus wrote: post #71
curiously wrote: post #60

my gripes with meteor are: not sure how ddp works or how to scale a meteor app. does not work with postgresql or any other db. The biggest issue for me is the tight coupling to MongoDB. Background: we used Meteor back in mid 2013. we ended up wasting a lot of time and resources because we had to learn everything. when we did, it did not perform so well, over 1MB going back and forth for what could've been achieved wi…

DDP is very simple. Think of it like REST for websockets. Here is the project page: https://www.meteor.com/ddp and here is the spec: https://github.com/meteor/meteor/blob/devel/packages/ddp/DDP... . If you have any questions, post them on forums.meteor.com and we'll try to help you out. It's not "tightly coupled" to MongoDB; Mongo is simply the only database that livequery ( https://www.meteor.com/livequery ) has imp…

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Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0

#104

Post by aikah »

jtchang wrote: post #82

What does support for sql databases look like with meteor? Is it stable and supported enough to use postgres?

It only support Mongodb because it is built on a specific mongodb feature. Basically, if you update Mongodb outside meteor, meteor can track that change.

Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0

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Post by uptownJimmy »

bmajz wrote: post #50
erichuppert wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the issues that you expect to face?

Just off the top of my head: 1. We will probably eventually need SQL 2. It might not make sense to be so JS heavy, especially since we are enterprise focused and may have to support older browsers for extended periods 3. General performance issues at scale that I would have with any new framework Planning on solving these problems when we hit them - for now, fast is best.

Other folks have said this same thing, bascially, earlier in this thread, but bmajz sums it up perfectly here. Can't agree more with this. Fast is best. Meteor drastically lessens the start-from-scratch cruft that makes any other web app framework/stack so daunting to learn. If they can get support for SQL in place, watch out.

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Post by benstr »

debaserab2 wrote: post #55
DigitalSea wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I have seen the tooling is definitely great. I am not the worlds biggest fan of Ruby on Rails, but one aspect I have always liked is the scaffolding. Being able to generate the skeleton of an application from the command line without needing to glue anything together or read documentation on multiple plugins. Don't get me wrong, I love working with React.js, but it isn't a framework and aspects like dealing…

I have a hard time understanding how meteor is comparable to angular or ember given that it appears to be full stack in every way, whereas angular or ember I can add to my existing stack. Meteor has always seemed interesting but the fact that it is hosted makes it a non starter. There's too many scaling questions that a marketing site will never put me at ease, I'll need to see some solid case studies and ideally a c…

Is it me or are a lot of the objections seem they come from peeps that have not tried it for more than a day? More assumed opinions and quick conclusions rather than educated and informed. I am stunned at the confidence of these opinions too. Puts the posters in a bad light. The major takeaway... it shows Meteor needs to do a better job educating the developer community.... and .... haters gonna hate ;)

Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0

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Post by oafitupa »

the_rosentotter wrote: post #96

I get an astroturfing vibe from Meteor. Coming from the consulting world, I have seen this too many times from entities with vested commercial interests. For this reason I always withhold any opinion until real world experience checks in from someone trusted.

Yes, I have the same feeling reading these comments. I tried Meteor and it felt like the classic monolithic framework that gets in your way.

Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0

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Post by posnet »

the_rosentotter wrote: post #96

I get an astroturfing vibe from Meteor. Coming from the consulting world, I have seen this too many times from entities with vested commercial interests. For this reason I always withhold any opinion until real world experience checks in from someone trusted.

You know you can always try it out yourself. I am not trying to be condensing, I also hate it when companies promote their product via astroturfing, but at least meteor is open source and Meteor the company has yet to even release their commercial product (its heroku like hosting).

Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0

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Post by xbryanx »

sebastianconcpt wrote: post #17

Meteor is great, I can't create a web app with other stacks faster than with Meteor. My record was saving the day with a demo in less than 1 hour. I'm glad is more mature. The only thing I miss is Postgres as alternative to MongoDB. Mongo is really comfortable but some projects needs Postgres badassness. Should be doable for Meteor's team since Postgres is now super friendly to JSON. I guess the main challenge is in…

You can track some of the SQL progress on the Meteor Development Group's Trello card for SQL support:

https://trello.com/c/Gf6YxFp2/42-sql-support

Re: Meteor 1.1 Released – Now Supporting Microsoft Windows and MongoDB 3.0

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Post by milhous »

dturnbull wrote: post #47
andrewfong wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you get lost at any point, I highly recommend https://www.discovermeteor.com/ . Definitely much useful than the official documentation if you're looking for any sort of tutorial.

For the sake of shameless self-promotion, I'd also like to suggest my book for anyone who feels Discover Meteor moves a bit too fast: http://meteortips.com/book/ (It's free.) :)

Thanks so much for this. I finished your book over the weekend and loved how clear and concise the writing was. Discover Meteor was difficult to follow as a beginner but am more confident that I can follow along now. Thanks again!
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