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Re: Google Fiber Austin

#101
I live at Austin and my Time Warner cable modem worked for me fine and the speed suffices for my typical needs, however it's $64/month, I would switch to Google-Fiber anytime soon as long as it opens in my community, though I don't know how I am going to use that 1Gbps bandwidth.

If 1Gbps becomes a reality, then each house can become a small data-center, which was limited by upstream speed (less than 2Mbps) in the past.

Re: Google Fiber Austin

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Here in the Netherlands we also have this but from more companies. A lot of cities now have fiber to the home, I have 50/50 + tv for 50 euro (100/100 would be 55). Some cities also have Gigabit, for about 100 euros/month ( http://www.tweak.nl/consument/fiber/productoverzicht.html ) Google fiber doesn't seem so special to me. Maybe I should read into how the money from the fiber network is made here. I think there are…

Our internet in the US costs about the same for less bandwidth. Also our internet companies are among the most loathed companies in the country and consistently rank among the lowest large companies in customer satisfaction. They also build networks on government subsidy but generally have little if any competition. They also almost force you to bundle in phone and TV with a pricing scheme that makes no sense. They are also allowed to gobble each other up in a race to the bottom.

Re: Google Fiber Austin

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post #3

It is sad that silicon valley has been so slow to adopt google fiber

Agreed. Whenever there's a comparison of our pathetic speeds with those in Korea/Japan, people claim "the US is a huge country", etc. However, San Francisco's density (6600/km^2) is higher than that of Tokyo (6000/km^2); why doesn't SF have FTTH?

Comparisons to Tokyo are not necessarily instructive, since Tōkyō-to includes a vast swathe of essentially uninhabited mountains. Population density in the central 23 wards, which is what people usually mean when they say "Tokyo", is 14,485/km2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_wards_of_Tokyo

Re: Google Fiber Austin

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post #101

I live at Austin and my Time Warner cable modem worked for me fine and the speed suffices for my typical needs, however it's $64/month, I would switch to Google-Fiber anytime soon as long as it opens in my community, though I don't know how I am going to use that 1Gbps bandwidth. If 1Gbps becomes a reality, then each house can become a small data-center, which was limited by upstream speed (less than 2Mbps) in the pa…

Imagining what you would do with 1Gbps is difficult because bandwidth of that speed is not common. If such bandwidth were common, products specifically leveraging it would also be.

Better streaming, easier remote backup, more devices connected, smoother remote computing, etc

Re: Google Fiber Austin

#105
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know the details, but apparently the deal had something to do with the wiring of the building when it was constructed in 2008. There have been resident meeting discussing the issue, and apparently the only way to support other ISPs is to pay for new separate wiring in the building, which I'm sure the building management will not do (given the housing demand situation in SF).

Pretty good chance we live in the same building. I've called our building rep a couple of times to try and pressure them into turning up the speeds, but no luck so far.

Yeah, at least for my building (which I'm heading up the internet committee for), the BPON that was installed by AT&T can do max 600 Mbps for about 30 customers on a loop, so that's 20 Mbps each. They should be able to burst higher than that when it's not saturated, but they haven't bothered to turn it on.

If you're in our building, you're in luck, though: the HOA is amenable to laying CAT5, so if things go well, we may have Webpass by the end of 2015.

Re: Google Fiber Austin

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

MonkeyBrains is currently offering Gigabit wireless in SF[1] on Indiegogo, $2500 setup fees and $30 monthly. estimated delivery date is early February next year. 1: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gigabit-wireless-to-the-h...

I'm sceptical. There've been a couple of Wifi-based local ISPs who went bankrupt where I live (in Austria).

Monkeybrains has been a WISP at least four years. [0]

They also sell service in a Carrier Hotel. I read an article a long while back where they mentioned that:

1) The $250 installation fee, plus the $35/month monthly fee more than covers the costs for each residential customer.

2) The revenue from the stuff in the Hotel would also cover the cost for the residential customers, if the residential customers stopped paying their bills or something.

[0] http://twitpic.com/m63rt

Re: Google Fiber Austin

#107
post #16

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It's easier to write a javascript framework than it is to solve the hard problems.

If by easier you mean "doesn't require vast amounts of capital" then yah.

I don't think you can claim that it's "solving" the problem if you can throw money at it. That's the business-world equivalent of "brute forcing"... and what we've learned from technology is that you're required to throw ever-larger amounts of resources at the problem until it eventually overwhelms any real-world capacity to "solve" it.

Re: Google Fiber Austin

#108

Damn, one time $300 fee for "Up to" 5 Mbps download and 1 Mbps upload. That's like getting free internet for 6 and a half years[1] from current providers after 6 months. And if you want to upgrade you've already got the hardware. I wonder what the minimum time of undercutting at a loss service they can offer is without it being considered anti-competitive. [1] They guarantee 7 years of free service https://fiber.goog…

> That's like getting free internet for 6 and a half years from current providers after 6 months. Is internet in Kansas really that bad? I'm paying $50/month for 30/21 (I'm paying for 25/25 but oh well) here in New Jersey [0]. I can't imagine doing much with that internet besides basic web browsing. Even low-res video is choppy at that speed. [0] http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3952406450

Well, I'm in Overland Park, KS (KC suburb) and paying $120/month for 30/5 + static IP + phone. My provider (CCI) wired my area 10 years ago with hybrid fiber-coax, but within the last 5 years have used all fiber for up to 200/200. They'll never run run all fiber in my area unless pushed.

Both Google and AT&T are wiring Overland Park with 1000/1000, so that ought to put CCI and Time-Warner's underwear in a bind.

Re: Google Fiber Austin

#109

Here in the Netherlands we also have this but from more companies. A lot of cities now have fiber to the home, I have 50/50 + tv for 50 euro (100/100 would be 55). Some cities also have Gigabit, for about 100 euros/month ( http://www.tweak.nl/consument/fiber/productoverzicht.html ) Google fiber doesn't seem so special to me. Maybe I should read into how the money from the fiber network is made here. I think there are…

I just got connected to my 200/200 mbit connection in my apartment in Copenhagen, Denmark. I'm paying 200 DKK for it per month ($35 / €27).

There are at least four companies with fiber in the ground here in Copenhagen. I chose a fairly cheap company (http://andels.net/), with fiber in only the eastern and northern part of Copenhagen. They hooked up the apartment complex I live in (200 apartments) for 3800 DKK per apartment, which we pay off over 2 years, while everyone gets a 50/50 mbit connection for free in that period. You can upgrade to 200/200 mbit, which I did.

For the people who just use the 50/50 mbit connection, the investment will pay itself back in less than two years (because they save at least 100 DKK per month on Internet, while having a much faster connection than ADSL).

Re: Google Fiber Austin

#110
post #3

It is sad that silicon valley has been so slow to adopt google fiber

Agreed. Whenever there's a comparison of our pathetic speeds with those in Korea/Japan, people claim "the US is a huge country", etc. However, San Francisco's density (6600/km^2) is higher than that of Tokyo (6000/km^2); why doesn't SF have FTTH?

Where is the majority of Japanese internet traffic going? Where is the majority of San Fransiscan internet traffic going?

There's more than just population density to take into account. It makes a big difference when you don't need nearly as much long haul backbone capacity because almost all of the destinations for the traffic are close to the subscribers.

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