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Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco

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Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco

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Also why is there a lack of African American people there? Anyone ever been to a technology conference? I felt like I stepped into Harvard circa 1955.

The city essentially kicked African Americans out starting in the 1970s under the guise of redeveloping the Fillmore District. Since then, it's been a matter of economics. SF has the smallest % of African Americans of any major US city (6.5%). This is smaller than cities typically thought of as "white:" Minneapolis (17%), Seattle (9%) and Portland, Oregon. (7.9%). Even Portland, Maine has a higher percentage of African Americans (6.6%).

As others have mentioned, Oakland is where African American people live in the Bay Area.

Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco

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As someone who is considering moving to San Francisco, this is terrifying. Please, can a local soothe me with a rebuttal?

Rebuttal: I am a social retard, typical geek, and it was only in San Francisco that I found some success meeting women. There are lots and lots of really interesting, amazing, beautiful women in San Francisco. I dated a bunch of them. A year ago, I returned to the Midwest, and haven't gotten a date since.

may be nerdy guys are better accepted in SF

Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco

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Somehow I suspect the guys who are getting the girls aren't at home writing blog posts about the subject.

I believe the technical term for this is ad hominem . Is it even possible for an argument to be true if it subjects the author to a witty reply? Apparently the Internet would have us believe that all such arguments are a priori certain to be false.

Not an ad hominen at all. ajg is not trying to deny the main proposition, i.e., that there's a shortage of women.

The point is that the shortage doesn't affect all guys equally. The guys with better chances aren't likely theorizing and writing blogs about the shortage.

Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco

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I've had more time to think about this... This link is now the number 2 link on HN. A few days ago one of the top links was about how to survive on $36/month for food. You have to be kidding me, right? Sorry, but woman and marathon, multi-day coding sessions filled with noodles, beans, rice, oats and pb&j just don't mix.

Maybe that's true in San Francisco, but I have indeed found a woman who will eat what's left from my meal only to go back to her own multi-day coding session. Here's hoping that she's going to make us both rich and powerful as well ... one day... :)

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Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco

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While it's tempting to refer to the "San Francisco Bay Area" as a single cultural/economic entity, it really isn't. The male/female ratios will vary considerably within this region, along with the economic base.

I read an article a while back (which I could remember the link) that pointed out that as you move from south to north (ie., from southbay/San Jose to San Francisco), you gradually move from engineering/hard science to software to UI design to marketing/PR. There are major, substantial exceptions, of course, but as a general trend, I think it holds true.

As you move from South to North on this continuum, the male/female ratio changes substantially as well. Obviously, the PR, advertising, and design firms in SF have a lot of women working at them. Law firms, especially the ones that are not patent-law oriented, also have a lot of women - as paralegals, secretaries, and lawyers. I'd also guess that there are more fashion/interior decorating type firms in SF than in San Jose (it's not New York, of course, but insofar as the Bay Area has an industry, it'll largely be in SF). SF does have tech/software companies, though I've heard (I can't support this, it's just conjecture) that they tend to be less hardcore tech than the peninsula. The mission bay campus of UCSF may bring a lot of biotech folks to SF - not sure how that will influence things.

I've lived in SF, LA, San Diego, and New York. Because I grew up in SF, I don't have as good a sense of what it's like trying to "meet women", since I already had a large social network from high school and so forth. New York was the best (Manhattan) - girls would actually initiate conversations and give me their phone number. LA has lots of beautiful women, and it's a pretty good scene, but some (not all) women seemed to lose interest when they learned I wasn't a part of the entertainment industry (well, I was doing software for post production, but that counts as outside...)

San Diego was the absolute worst - the ratio of men to women was so high, and the men were so aggressive, that the women seemed to almost shut down and go into a shell. I learned something here - women don't seem to have as good a time when the ratio gets too favorable for them. It's surprising, but it makes sense. Women actually do like to pursue men, but if they're surrounded by a 3-1 ratio of men to women, and the men are very aggressive, they get hit on ever five minutes by a guy who they aren't interested in, it becomes nearly impossible to "make yourself available." Maybe they see a guy they'd like to meet, but if they appear open to conversation, five other guys will pretty much rush in right away. So they shut down and lose all interest in talking with people, or just stop going out to those bars altogether.

Nobody likes a bad ratio, but I've actually found that men and women are happiest closer to a 50-50 ratio.

Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco

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I've never lived in San Francisco, but it's no secret that tech centres like Silicon Valley have very few women. Not only that, but based on these comments it seems like most coders have given up on socializing with women! Surely this must negatively affect the product development of applications meant for the general public.

Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone have a reference of a study on using secondary social indicators to estimate an individuals likely behavior, prejudices, socio-economic history and current status, etc?

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/

I didn't get Stuff White People Like. It seems to be Stuff Yuppies and Hipsters Like.

Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco

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I've had more time to think about this... This link is now the number 2 link on HN. A few days ago one of the top links was about how to survive on $36/month for food. You have to be kidding me, right? Sorry, but woman and marathon, multi-day coding sessions filled with noodles, beans, rice, oats and pb&j just don't mix.

This looks potentially promising: http://women20sf.eventbrite.com/

Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco

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As someone who is considering moving to San Francisco, this is terrifying. Please, can a local soothe me with a rebuttal?

I know several hackers who've been lucky in love in San Francisco or thereabouts. Does this help?

Well, I know more hackers, that are not lucky at all, then that they are lucky.
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