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Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

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Post by saurik »

starkness wrote: post #98
saurik wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To the extent to which I believe these are interesting arguments to have, I think that this should be discussed only after the intrinsic motivation has failed; as it stands, it is my understanding that a jailbreak is coming from evad3rs in the near future: planetbeing has already stated that they have what they need, and they are just working on integration and support for all devices (which is a lot of busywork). As…

To our knowledge, no one was working on an open source jailbreak, and given that the site I'm building is designed to incentivize things like free and open source software, this was a huge component. I've also been told there are a good number of people that have jailbreaks, and it's possible that they might be motivated to release it as FOSS if enough funds are raised. And it's not like anything is keeping evad3rs f…

> To our knowledge, no one was working on an open source jailbreak...

(responded to elsewhere, maybe with more emphasis on openjailbreak.org)

> ...and given that the site I'm building is designed to incentivize things like free and open source software, this was a huge component. I've also been told there are a good number of people that have jailbreaks, and it's possible that they might be motivated to release it as FOSS if enough funds are raised.

I believe my response to this notion (when it was brought up by the other person who contacted me about your bounty a few weeks ago) was that you would be better off then attempting to do this for a later version of iOS, as the kinds of numbers that had been thrown around as "the magic number" to make that happen was hundreds of thousands of dollars... it will take a lot of time and a lot of really hungry users that don't see jailbreaks (open or closed) on the horizon, to generate that kind of money. Releasing this now kind of calls that goal into question: that goal incentivizes waiting.

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

#102

Post by 37prime »

untog wrote: post #57
37prime wrote: post #27

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Exactly, Google will never add codes to Android KitKat that tells T-Mobile about unauthorized Tehtering. /sarc

AFAIK, it doesn't. 4.4 contains a setting that allows a provider to specify a different APN for tethering use, which I can imagine is a legitimate feature. You can also turn it off (on IPv4 at least)

The same Nexus 4 + Android KitKat 4.4 + AT&T SIM Card does not detect unauthorized tethering. Surprisingly this "feature" only appears when using T-Mobile SIM Card. It is not the case with Android Jelly Bean 4.3

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

#103

Post by gcb0 »

glhaynes wrote: post #62
gcb0 wrote: post #56

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That was true on Android 2.3.. Things are inverted now. But anyone with visual disability will still have to scavenge for a phone with actual buttons. And good luck with that...

Everything I've ever heard, including in this thread, says that iOS and its apps are still way ahead of Android and its apps in accessibility. I'm not very personally familiar with the accessibility on either so I can't say, but I'd be surprised if this has changed as radically as you say.

you should do some research then. for a blind person, IOS7 is unusable. while recent samsungs are almost fine... though i hate pretty much everything samsung did with android, the accessibility stuff was ok.

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

#104

Post by gcb0 »

r00fus wrote: post #73
charleslmunger wrote: post #67

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TouchWiz is terrible. It's bloated, riddled with security holes, and doesn't follow the android UI guidelines. Users with TouchWiz are missing out on the the majority of design improvements android has had in the last 3 years. Try out an AOSP based build (maybe the ROM from the google play edition?) on your phone. It's like night and day.

I've been trying out a Google Nexus 5 for the past few weeks and I'm not terribly impressed. The bluetooth connection seems a bit better, and the screen is bigger, but usability wise, iOS7 is better. I don't want most of the customizability (i.e., separate home screens/themes) and the keyboard is simply harder to use than iOS. The whole OS feels laggy (still) even with almost-comparable hardware to the latest-get iPh…

> keyboard harder to use

... it is 2013... get with the program and use Swype. It is impossible to go back.

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

#105

Post by gcb0 »

phaer wrote: post #22
girvo wrote: post #9

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Its nice to use. I like how it integrates with my Mac stuff better than Android does, and iTunes Match is a killer feature. But I'd love to load FOSS onto it, so a jailbreak would be super handy. Oh, and the main reason? 'cause we can :)

"because we can" is obviously a very legitimate reason for something like a jailbreak :) But I am not sure if it answers my question completely, because we are talking about a site which a collects money because it seems like we can't at the moment. There's nothing wrong with that, but it shows that an iPhone jailbreak seems to be a high-priority task for many here and that's something which "because we can" does not…

1. insert usb cable into debian box

2. insert other end into ipad

3. get a dialog "trust this computer"

4. click "trust"

5. goto 3.

#*@! you apple.

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

#106

Post by robk »

mortenjorck wrote: post #55
phaer wrote: post #5

Serious question: Why bother? Why is there such an interest in using a very closed system in a way the vendor does not support if there are (more) open alternatives? Is it because you are forced to use an iPhone by external factors, like your employer? Are there critical features missing from Android and all the others? Is it just your personal preference? I really don't mean to offend anyone, it's just that I percei…

While there’s still about zero percent chance of it happening in the near term, I have to think that long-term, Apple will port Gatekeeper to iOS. It’s a near-ideal balance of security on OS X: Non-technical users can stay in the walled garden of the Mac App Store, semi-technical users can allow signed binaries, and power users can run whatever they want. I work in the mobile healthcare space, and right now, we’re st…

>without a mercurial third party deciding what we can and can’t do.

Isn't that Apple?

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

#107

Post by girvo »

gcb0 wrote: post #105
phaer wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"because we can" is obviously a very legitimate reason for something like a jailbreak :) But I am not sure if it answers my question completely, because we are talking about a site which a collects money because it seems like we can't at the moment. There's nothing wrong with that, but it shows that an iPhone jailbreak seems to be a high-priority task for many here and that's something which "because we can" does not…

1. insert usb cable into debian box 2. insert other end into ipad 3. get a dialog "trust this computer" 4. click "trust" 5. goto 3. #*@! you apple.

God yes, this is the worst thing right now. Sigh.

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

#108

Post by glhaynes »

gcb0 wrote: post #103
glhaynes wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything I've ever heard, including in this thread, says that iOS and its apps are still way ahead of Android and its apps in accessibility. I'm not very personally familiar with the accessibility on either so I can't say, but I'd be surprised if this has changed as radically as you say.

you should do some research then. for a blind person, IOS7 is unusable. while recent samsungs are almost fine... though i hate pretty much everything samsung did with android, the accessibility stuff was ok.

There are tons of blind and vision-impaired users using iOS 7 and a quick web search shows articles praising the improvements for those users. No doubt there are vision-impaired users who don't like it, too, but it's silly to make a blanket statement that it's unusable.

Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

#109

Post by [deleted] »

gcb0 wrote: post #104
r00fus wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been trying out a Google Nexus 5 for the past few weeks and I'm not terribly impressed. The bluetooth connection seems a bit better, and the screen is bigger, but usability wise, iOS7 is better. I don't want most of the customizability (i.e., separate home screens/themes) and the keyboard is simply harder to use than iOS. The whole OS feels laggy (still) even with almost-comparable hardware to the latest-get iPh…

> keyboard harder to use ... it is 2013... get with the program and use Swype. It is impossible to go back.

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Re: Is iOS7 jailbroken yet?

#110

Post by r00fus »

gcb0 wrote: post #104
r00fus wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been trying out a Google Nexus 5 for the past few weeks and I'm not terribly impressed. The bluetooth connection seems a bit better, and the screen is bigger, but usability wise, iOS7 is better. I don't want most of the customizability (i.e., separate home screens/themes) and the keyboard is simply harder to use than iOS. The whole OS feels laggy (still) even with almost-comparable hardware to the latest-get iPh…

> keyboard harder to use ... it is 2013... get with the program and use Swype. It is impossible to go back.

Swype sucks if you use a lot of acronyms. Most of my work emails involve such. The iOS keyboard is really good at hunt/peck typing which is what's needed for such terse communications.

Swype causes keyboard popup delay of several hundred milliseconds on my N5. I stopped using it after 3 days.

Also what's with the default throb on key press in Android? Why would anyone find that useful?

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