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iOS 7 looks familiar

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Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by dirkgently »

greghinch wrote: post #70

These arguments always strike me as coming from people who don't actually understand what design is. The folks who think that design is the font face, the weight of lines, the colors used. Those are all facets of design, but they are essentially just tools to accomplish the goal: experience and engagement. What you are noticing are just trends, and this is nothing new. Look back over the history of even just twentiet…

This particular argument strikes me as coming from people who don't actually understand that Rounded Corners(TM)(R)(C) fall in the same category.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by dirkgently »

rustynails77 wrote: post #90
bdt101 wrote: post #86

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Even if these are just trends, we now see Apple following trends rather than setting them. That's a significant change.

Noone should see this as Apple copying anyone. There are designs that work well with phones - and to be honest, there aren't too many of them within today's technology. If something works, designers use it. There should be no better argument that software patents (in most instances) are idiotic.

>Noone should see this as Apple copying anyone.

While Apple winning 600M on the same argument?

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by andyharl »

"Good artists borrow, great artists steal." ~ Pablo Picasso

All these interfaces are pillaging the Bauhaus! Shame on them! Shame Shame Shame! (-;

http://www.effectiveui.com/blog/2013/04/26/an-historical-per...

In all seriousness though, there isn't any original design. To think that the goal of design is to snatch something from thin air in moments of lighting like brilliance is a gross misconception. Designing is solving problems.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by emehrkay »

nivla wrote: post #68
emehrkay wrote: post #52

Ha. Apple removes some gloss and all-of-a-sudden it looks like OSes that post-date it.

You do realize that there is more to flat design than just removing gloss? If I were to agree with your statement then I would say the opposite is also true. Draw a rectangle, add some gloss and voila.. Apple's design right?

Put the iOS images side by side, shit even ignore the ios7 images, and the difference is gloss(and button shape). My point is that layout/placement of elements seem to be a constant, while it is actual dress that is the differentiator. Functionally it seems that iOS hasn't changed. The lock screen looks different, but seems to behave as it does now (the bokeh effect is the only thing that compares from this article). And I can't fault them for taking WebOS' multitasker, every small-screen os should use it.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

#106

Post by jkubicek »

LowKarmaAccount wrote: post #89
Geee wrote: post #85

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No, this isn't true this time. I have been using iOS 7 on iPhone 5 for a day now, and I have mixed feelings. I have always trusted Apple to 'get it right' and be delighted with thought-out details and just no-frills great UX. I know it's Beta, but it honestly looks and feels like Android with a bit of lag here and there, some stuttering animations, confusing unlock and answer call screens, too thin fonts for my taste…

Have you had a chance to beta-test any of the previous iOS releases? It is possible that other iOS releases had lag issues that were fixed before the release to the general public.

iOS 7 (beta) seems just as fast/stable as any previous beta release. iOS 4 was completely unusable on it's first release.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by emehrkay »

mtgx wrote: post #82

Another one: http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/10/ios7-vs-android-a-quick...

Apple clearly took ideas from Google/Android. However, Apple's offerings look to have a level of polish that the Android ones do not have. Each and every comparison on that page looks like Google's engineers' visuals vs Apple's artists' -- thats the thing that "regular" people will instinctively gravitate to -- the one that is pretty.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by Geee »

LowKarmaAccount wrote: post #89
Geee wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, this isn't true this time. I have been using iOS 7 on iPhone 5 for a day now, and I have mixed feelings. I have always trusted Apple to 'get it right' and be delighted with thought-out details and just no-frills great UX. I know it's Beta, but it honestly looks and feels like Android with a bit of lag here and there, some stuttering animations, confusing unlock and answer call screens, too thin fonts for my taste…

Have you had a chance to beta-test any of the previous iOS releases? It is possible that other iOS releases had lag issues that were fixed before the release to the general public.

No, I haven't tried beta releases before. I'm sure they'll get rid of all minor annoyances such as bit of lag or weird layout reflows. It was reported that they are working on the new design behind schedule, so I think this release was made in a bit of hurry.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by bobsoap »

cheald wrote: post #21
bane wrote: post #16

You know, I can see that. If Android is ripping off iOS that really means that for iOS to step up and get modern, Android isn't the template to follow -- Android is stuck with innovating off of iOS's past accomplishments...it's innovating while walking backwards. WM, being a ground-up re-imagining of how smart phones work is looking forward...better to co-opt some of those ideas instead...be in a position of innovati…

What makes you think that Android is ripping off iOS?

Perhaps the same thing that seems to have convinced most every Apple user that their products are magical and categorically superior to every other product in existence: good marketing paired with illusory naivety on the receiving end.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by gurkendoktor »

Samuel_Michon wrote: post #54
cheald wrote: post #12

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I get that, but I think it's very difficult to make an argument that given a new user, it would be interpreted as an interaction cue rather than just visual polish. The presence of the up arrow is actively misleading, from a UX perspective. It's like having a slide toggle that you have to double tap to activate!

iPhoneOS/iOS has been around for 6 years. 600 million devices have been sold that all have the same ‘slide to unlock’ mechanism. Now that the majority of phones being sold are smartphones, Apple must’ve felt that it’s OK to remove some of the training wheels. Whether that’s wise remains to be seen. Microsoft finally removed the ‘Start’ button from Windows, but that has been met with quite some resistance, from new an…

Once people treat them as the complicated computers they are, we can start the countdown to post-post-PC devices.

Especially because there is no reason to drop the visual slider, or to make all the visual hints on the screen super low-contrast (on the new starry sky background at least).

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