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Re: Kids These Days

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> Teenagers drink less, smoke less, and are less likely to die in car accidents. Why would he put "drink less" is reasons why teens should be happier?

Why call out "drink less" but not "smoke less"? Both are recreational drugs, both are socially stimulative, but only the former has the propensity to lead to serious harm in the short term.

Re: Kids These Days

#102
post #23

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> Do you have any idea what a "typical" middle class lifestyle was like in the 1960s? You mean the one where they could have 3 kids, send them to college, and graduate with no debt? One of my professors went to UC Berkeley in the 60's. Inflation adjusted, his cost was $700 (I forget if this was per semester or per year).

And those classrooms had no AC (probably), no WiFi, no projectors, no access to (almost unlimited) online resources, no fancy gym, etc etc.

In 1988 in _Atlanta_ my local public school finally got ceiling fans installed, thanks to the PTA fundraising. We never had AC. We had one window unit at home in my parents bedroom. It was fine.

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post #90
post #64

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One of the effects of heavy social media and phone use is parents (and other carers) paying less attention to kids.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2017/11/27/parents-... > Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

Both things could be true: It's possible that parents are more physically present (because they consciously decided to reduce hours or work from home) but are less mentally present (because a lot of that home time gets eaten by being on the phone or because working at home is still work).

Re: Kids These Days

#104
post #90
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the effects of heavy social media and phone use is parents (and other carers) paying less attention to kids.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2017/11/27/parents-... > Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

I have seen this claim before but I would really like the details. What are they doing? Physically present or engaging with kids?

As far as the UK goes I find this hard to reconcile with longer hours in school (breakfast clubs and after school things), huge growth in childcare businesses, etc.

I wonder whether the missing factor might be less informal childcare from family, so even if kids are spending more time with parents, they are spending less with family in total (therefore still getting less individual attention).

Re: Kids These Days

#105
post #43

One observation I made when I was a teacher was that the more we did to help students (as a cohort) with their mental health, the worse it became. My theory is that teenagers are experimenting with different identities, so when you give them a seminar on anxiety and depression, some of them try those on for size. Moral of the story: trying to pre-emptively solve a problem can cause the problem or cause a different pr…

yeah basically like warning kids to not like frozen railing, which they would not even think about until the warning

it's like asking on suicide hotline whether you have some weapon or object in room which could hurt you, great ideas to give to suicidal people...

Re: Kids These Days

#107
post #43

One observation I made when I was a teacher was that the more we did to help students (as a cohort) with their mental health, the worse it became. My theory is that teenagers are experimenting with different identities, so when you give them a seminar on anxiety and depression, some of them try those on for size. Moral of the story: trying to pre-emptively solve a problem can cause the problem or cause a different pr…

> the more we did to help students (as a cohort) with their mental health, the worse it became

An equally plausible explanation is that when the school had zero resources to help kids with depression or other mental health problems they choose to keep their mouths shut and suffer it in silence.

Once the school started paying attention to the issue, it started surfacing people with pre-existing problems who had not previously had anyone to talk to about it.

Re: Kids These Days

#108

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Maybe not organic avocados but more likely to be eating produce from your own backyard garden. That was done for cost reasons back then but today local and seasonal produce is a staple of high end restaurants.

Absolutely incorrect. Do you really think the majority of people lived on an acre of arable land providing bountiful vegetables year-round? Do you know what a "tenement" is? Do you know how many people had indoor plumbing in 1960? How many died of the measles?

The vegetables obviously weren’t fresh year round but my grandmother and mother and aunts canned lots and lots of vegetables we ate throughout the winter.
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