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Kids These Days

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Re: Kids These Days

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This bit strikes me as rather stuck in the past and oblivious to 2026: "the internet offers an escape from solitude for those rejected in the real world, allowing weirdos, nerds, and the painfully shy to make social connections in ways that would have been impossible for their counterparts in earlier decade." That statement might have been true in 1995-2012 about forums, IRC, early social media, and Tumblr. It is not…

4chan is still thriving

Re: Kids These Days

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post #25

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Mad stuff, especially when he reached the “top problems in school” graphic. Does the author really think that kids weren’t doing terrible things back then? It just wasn’t dealt with, victims were blamed, problems ignored. It’s like racism around the world, the countries that least acknowledge it as a problem are the biggest offenders.

I'm pretty sure the point of the graphic was literally "look, people said the same thing a generation ago about the generation before!"

In fact, the sentences around the graphic reinforce this reading:

> in the 80s, people were complaining that things had gone to hell. Here’s a popular list (the facts are totally fabricated, by the way) distributed at the time

> None of this means that the worriers are mistaken or that we are in the grip of a moral panic (though I might make this argument in another post). But it does suggest that the popularity of despair can’t be taken as good evidence that this despair is warranted.

Re: Kids These Days

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One observation I made when I was a teacher was that the more we did to help students (as a cohort) with their mental health, the worse it became. My theory is that teenagers are experimenting with different identities, so when you give them a seminar on anxiety and depression, some of them try those on for size. Moral of the story: trying to pre-emptively solve a problem can cause the problem or cause a different problem.

Re: Kids These Days

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When was the last time you met somebody who only walked all thier life? Never rode a horse because only the rich could afford such things. When was the last time you had no food? Starvation used to be a real problem. I'm not taking about running short at the end of the month, I'm talking about there isn't food for even the wealthy people. Food today is safer than ever. You talk about poison, but that is pure lie, it…

> You talk about poison, but that is pure lie I think it's fairly well accepted that the high obesity rates are caused by the shifting American diet. Yes it's more available than the 1950s (although I suspect not terribly so), but the effect it has on public health has been a nightmare.

Shifting diet, but poison is the wrong term.

Re: Kids These Days

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When was the last time you met somebody who only walked all thier life? Never rode a horse because only the rich could afford such things. When was the last time you had no food? Starvation used to be a real problem. I'm not taking about running short at the end of the month, I'm talking about there isn't food for even the wealthy people. Food today is safer than ever. You talk about poison, but that is pure lie, it…

He seems to focused on what happened in the last few decades. Your points seem to apply to a much longer time-scale.

The last few decades are much harder to quantify. I wouldn't want to go back to my youth.

Re: Kids These Days

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That's a strange characterization of an article that spends the bulk of the text referencing studies and talking about research practices in psychology. Apart from the No Country for Old Men reference, the images are mostly mental health statistics or polling data. The list of "top problems in U.S. public schools" is quoted from an anthology Social and Psychological Bases of Ideology and System Justification.

Re: Kids These Days

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> but, given that all of their peers have adopted it, there is a serious social cost to opting out. The same was true of smoking. A combination of gov regulation and social stigma have managed to reduce smoking rates.

As the author also points out.

my bad

Re: Kids These Days

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The article intentionally is giving an overly optimistic view of the modern day, when giving the argument that "kids these days" are better off, and it's quickly contrasted with a pessimistic view: > children and adolescents are more likely to spend their time alone; they devote hours each day to staring at their phones; they play less, sleep less, and read less for pleasure.... Our children are living in a time of c…

I think this is the first time on HN when I've been one of those people who didn't adequately look at the linked article before commenting, and boy is my face red.

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Re: Kids These Days

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post #11

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Same happens in the USA all the time. Don't let media impressions fill you.

Walking or riding my bike to school was certainly not an option. I know very few people (no one?) for which those were options. It was difficult to visit my friends as well so I spent a lot of time alone.

It is viable in pre-war developments where cars weren't assumed, such that housing and services needed to be denser.
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