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Let’s say no to this kind of mentality.
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It seems to me that the person who wasn't listening was the manager who ignored the reasonable reasons for not wanting a cold room and made up some bullshit about compressors.
The blog literally says "I didn't care to understand" to demonstrate that he was not interested in listening. I would not assume the manager was making things up. He might have truly believed what he was saying. In these situations if you take the time to understand, you can get a lot of leverage by getting to the root of their concerns and then building a pathway to address them mutually. If they thought it was goin…
I actually liked the story, despite some valid negative comments here. "AC on" crowd usually have no consideration for anyone and rarely understands that while air flow matters, the temperature doesn't have to be freezing. "Don't do it" note have as much validity as "Nah, I will" reaction. The fact that conversation happened is a win, and it's fine, that the problem wasn't solved in the best possible way, it isn't li…
Braindead comment, the building owner needed the AC on for some reason which does not need to be specified to the obnoxious tenant.
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The options aren't ≥37° xor =18°. Setpoints are ubiquitous and timers very common, too. They nearly got somewhere when talking about cooling different rooms by different amounts! I don't do sports but assuming the muscle heat requirement is a thing, how does anyone exercise or do heavy work outside in countries where the temperature falls to 18° some days of the year? Presumably one could use a jacket? And how do the…
Rather than setpoints I am talking about the amount of energy in the air outside and locked into the thermal mass of the building. If the AC got turned off last night the building is sort of like the burning embers of a fire that will reheat the room, then at 8 or 9am you are at 30C and your building is getting that energy too. To win that race your AC may need to come in early and start bailing out BTUs before the r…
I don't see 25c mentioned anywhere btw, the 18 I'm referencing is what the author says they walked into when it had been on during the night
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The options aren't ≥37° xor =18°. Setpoints are ubiquitous and timers very common, too. They nearly got somewhere when talking about cooling different rooms by different amounts! I don't do sports but assuming the muscle heat requirement is a thing, how does anyone exercise or do heavy work outside in countries where the temperature falls to 18° some days of the year? Presumably one could use a jacket? And how do the…
> I don't do sports but assuming the muscle heat requirement is a thing Metabolism produces heat, human bodies have a complex heat management system, that for reasons of physics, is much better at heating itself up when it's cold, than cooling itself when it's hot. > how does anyone exercise or do heavy work outside in countries where the temperature falls to 18° some days of the year? 18°C is t-shirt territory if yo…
Yet the author considers that temperature unworkable for their sport due to muscle heat and sweating requirements. Another thing about the story that doesn't add up..
I thought this article was supposed to be about negotiating, but this person doesn't want to listen to or negotiate with anyone. The closest they came to negotiation was when they were doing yoga alone in one room and "decided" to allow a dozen other people in a different room to turn their A/C on. > On these days, I've told them to turn the AC off until we're done. One day, I was the only one practicing and I had to…
I think you missed the point. Any negotiation, from the point of view of the author, was a negative and unfair outcome. He had paid to rent the space for a particular purpose. He had already compromised by allowing a portion of the space to be less than ideal for his use. The other side was demanding “completely our way and nothing for you” given fabricated reasons. He did not care to understand because he could tell…
This is poorly written with an unclear outcome. This starts as talking about how to make 1:1s more productive. It ends with, I must presume though it is unclear, losing a lease with no backup. This is not more productive. Compromise is about figuring out how to give everybody what they want while letting go of how it happens. Turning on half the ACs is a great compromise. Whatever happened at the end is not. To be ge…
I think the keys here are 1. It’s not clear who wrote the note, and they didn’t leave contact info or any opening to a negotiation. If the note had said “this AC must stay on at all times, please call 111-222-3333 with any questions - building engineer” that would’ve completely reversed the morality of story for me. But the note asserts authority by making this non-negotiable demand (which is the part that seems patr…
Also at this one event I’ve been to, there are some exercises to get people more comfortable saying no. You pair up, one person out of nowhere says no and the other person verbally celebrates the no. Then switch. There’s a guideline that if you’re a maybe say no and then take the time to reflect on why a maybe and then if realize actually a yes then can say yes and change your mind.
This person learned half the framework, then refused to listen when the adult on the other side of the phone explained their reasons for having to have the A/C on, then wants ... what? for demonstrating their misunderstanding? > He listed some vague reasons, compressor this, compressor that, costs, etc... which I didn't care to understand. > two adults should be able to ask each other for what they want ... Which the…
Turning an AC unit off for a couple of hours has absolutely no negative consequences to the unit itself. The stuff about compressors was bullshit that the manager hoped would not be challenged.