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All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Care to enlighten us?

I believe Garry Tan would enlighten you if you read/listened to him edit: to be clear, I dont think Tan is capable of "enlightening" anyone. I was responding to the lazy comment above...

Garry tan was enlightened by thiels Greta is the anti Christ talk.

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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post #20

One thing I’ve learned from reading accounts of Flock camera thefts is that you shouldn’t do more than one per outing. This sounds like a group arranged to do them all at once which also works.

Impressive what a community can do together if that's true .

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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So one of the public-private backdoors to erode citizen's rights is being undermined. Such a shame.

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If those people recording on their cell phones are going to coordinate and provide mass surveillance to the government, then yes, I would hope most people are against that.

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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Coincidentally, ran into a YouTube short testing how to cut down steel poles quickly yesterday, with battery powered tools. Sawzall, 1m 15s, circular saw 1m, circular saw like 20s. https://youtube.com/shorts/aAc3Kq0bFPs Yet to see anyone describe what to do once they are down. They for sure have all manners of wicked battery backed up trackers etc, I'm sure. (This would be highly illegal to do and you should not do i…

Flock cameras are typically mounted on aluminum alloy poles. Easier to cut than steel.

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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> Each camera is valued at approximately $3,000, putting the total loss at roughly $24,000. That cost falls directly on the Winona Police Department’s budget. Only if they replace them...

Are they contractually obligated to replace them? IIRC, some municipalities have been covering the cameras with trash bags because they cannot turn them off or remove them until their contract expires.

I think there is a difference between turning them off/removing and having them be stolen/destroyed. I would be shocked if they would be forced to repurchase them.

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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So one of the public-private backdoors to erode citizen's rights is being undermined. Such a shame.

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I would be against people standing on every single corner taking video of other citizens 24/7 and handing it over to a private company, yes.

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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post #39

Seems these days the only cross-partisan agreement is resistance to Flock and Axon. People don't want Big Brother. Politicians unironically trying to positively refer to them as an enhanced Big Brother is completely tone deaf. And we know that police departments were working with ICE during Metro Surge: > But the Star Tribune found law enforcement agencies around the country searched several Twin Cities suburbs’ came…

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Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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Maybe I'm overly confident in Flock's ability to triangulate, but wouldn't government agencies be able to know exactly who is cutting down Flock cameras? Isn't that the entire purpose of these things?

If you roll up on a bicycle with a hat and sunglasses then probably not!
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