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W Social, public institutions and the theater of European digital sovereignty

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Re: W Social, public institutions and the theater of European digital sovereignty

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post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably marketers in this one. Marketers who know how to access politicians adn get invited to WEF. The distinction: marketers know how to trick people, lobbyists bribe them.

That's not lobbyism, that's straight corruption. Lobbyism is, at least in theory, about convincing politicians

You would have to be exceptionally naïve to think that a good chunk of the "lobbying" done doesn't involve some sort of exchange of something of value.

Re: W Social, public institutions and the theater of European digital sovereignty

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The guy who runs W Social, whilst he has a software developer background, has worked most of his time in the financial world. W social is also an LLC. It's a corporation with shares looking to make a profit somehow. No doubt there will be ads on there, and paid features. I don't see how this will ever become a success, not because it's going closed source (people here don't care), or because it might have paid featur…

I think they just choose W, because it's the letter before X (former twitter). Apart from the EU leaders and politicians stroking each other egos, I hardly think anyone would be there and it would die out in few years.

It will serve it's primary purpose of separating criticism from direct association with EU politicians posts. They also hate community notes.

Re: W Social, public institutions and the theater of European digital sovereignty

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post #65
post #58

Looking at the people who immediately joined and this being presented at WEF, this looks less like an EU BlueSky or X and more like an EU Truth Social - i.e. the core users seem to be EU politicians who don't want to depend on a platform owned by their political opponents for reach and so want to have their own platform.

It isn't so much about platform owned by political opponents as platforms now being political and/or that we always have to assume they come with a political agenda.

Its about restricting replies to sycophants.

Re: W Social, public institutions and the theater of European digital sovereignty

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post #48

I have a hunch that many - most? - of these European digital sovereignty projects will end up being grifts. Whenever money is being thrown at any crappy, low-effort startup that knows how to speak the right language, you get grifters coming out of the woodwork.

There's billions available for whoever greases the right palms.

Re: W Social, public institutions and the theater of European digital sovereignty

#106

The guy who runs W Social, whilst he has a software developer background, has worked most of his time in the financial world. W social is also an LLC. It's a corporation with shares looking to make a profit somehow. No doubt there will be ads on there, and paid features. I don't see how this will ever become a success, not because it's going closed source (people here don't care), or because it might have paid featur…

Yeah, terrible name indeed.

Re: W Social, public institutions and the theater of European digital sovereignty

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post #10

I thought this was a good post on the topic: [W Social is TruthSocial with a European accent.][1] [^1]: https://wecanjustdothings.leaflet.pub/3mokohkfb4224

i wish there was a disclosure about letting LLM write this article

Re: W Social, public institutions and the theater of European digital sovereignty

#108

W Social felt extremely shady since their first advertisement on HN. Also, for all their talk about human verification, I have 6 accounts under different names :)

The name is terrible too.

it's actually a double-v as in "the vvitch"

Re: W Social, public institutions and the theater of European digital sovereignty

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Sovereignty is mostly just a protectionist racket. European firms struggle to compete with dominant US platforms, framing industrial policy as "sovereignty" rather than protectionism just sounds more strategic and security-oriented. I've seen US platforms bend over backwards to meet the requirements and they still choose their preferred winner. Predictably the goalposts keep moving.

EU doesn't have enough money to just buy the competition

Re: W Social, public institutions and the theater of European digital sovereignty

#110

W Social felt extremely shady since their first advertisement on HN. Also, for all their talk about human verification, I have 6 accounts under different names :)

The name is terrible too.

Yeah, based on the people and organizations moving there, RedSky would be more appropriate.
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