Has anyone tried to 3d print vinyl?
Not 3D printed, but laser cut:
https://github.com/kallaballa/sndcut.git
Works pretty well, certainly not high quality audio, though. Maybe if someone out there has a more precise laser, it'd work ..
APC–2 – A professional record cutter for producing original playback discs
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I've heard every lazy comment about hipsters and rich kids who are supposedly their target audience, and the cost of the products, as if the visible ingredients are all that accounting measure. Swiss watches cost orders of magnitude more than TE's amazing inventions, and their only purpose seems to be to remind the wearer how amazing they are when they look at it. Nobody pretends that high-end watches are anything…
$700? $70,000 for a Patek Philippe Aquanaut!
I'd guess there's a very high chance someone wearing an Aquanaut is having a better time than someone wearing a $700 Tissot or a $17 Casio, less of a difference between the latter two.
It's not telling better time, it's telling of a better time.
Re: APC–2 – A professional record cutter for producing original playback discs
#103Not even a price listed. I don't understand the market for this - fancy musical instruments for creativity, sure, there's a market, but who wants to own cutting vinyl? How many records would you need to make for this to be more economical than paying a dedicated shop? How many would you need to do to "achieve higher quality"? How consistent are your results?
Teenage Engineering has the market of people who have a lot of money to spend on a hobby, want a fancy product design and don't care about cost.
The exception is their PO series stuff which is actually kind of affordable for what you can get out of them.
Re: APC–2 – A professional record cutter for producing original playback discs
#104Not even a price listed. I don't understand the market for this - fancy musical instruments for creativity, sure, there's a market, but who wants to own cutting vinyl? How many records would you need to make for this to be more economical than paying a dedicated shop? How many would you need to do to "achieve higher quality"? How consistent are your results?
Vinylrecorder.com
There’s been a market for this for nearly 30 years (and the rest).
Re: APC–2 – A professional record cutter for producing original playback discs
#105our shared vision is to enable access to anyone who wants their music or sound on a physical record. FWIW, You can get 100 records + jackets printed professionally for ~$10 a pop. Gakken toy record cutter is low quality, but costs $160. I wonder what this would cost. Surely it's impractical for personal use, as marketed.
Yeah that copy doesn’t line up with the reality of the pricing or production run of this thing at all.
Cool project but the opposite of democratization.
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#106Aren't vinyls typically pressed, not carved from a blank? I wonder how accurate they can actually get if they have to carve every notch into the groove.
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#107I wonder if it can make a flexidisc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexi_disc I remember to listening to some in my childhood and never understood why the tech was not the standard (relative to the brittle cumbersome vinyls). Maybe the sound quality is worse. Unsure
Worse sound quality and even worse longevity.
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#108How does it buffer audio?
One thing I didn't realize for a long time is that it turns out that a lot of these machines have a digital stage. To cut a disk you need to pack the grooves as close as possible. But the spiral isn't fixed, it's adjusted dynamically. Quiet sections can be packed close together. That means that before cutting, the machine needs to know how much physical space it needs for the audio it's about to put on the disk. And that requires a buffer, and that's very often digital. So it turns out there's precious little vinyl out there without a digital step being involved out there.
Not that it matters anyway, since vinyl is a pretty terrible technology, but still, it's kind of funny.
Re: APC–2 – A professional record cutter for producing original playback discs
#109Aren't vinyls typically pressed, not carved from a blank? I wonder how accurate they can actually get if they have to carve every notch into the groove.
You need to carve the master to have something to press from.
Re: APC–2 – A professional record cutter for producing original playback discs
#110Aren't vinyls typically pressed, not carved from a blank? I wonder how accurate they can actually get if they have to carve every notch into the groove.
The original master is cut. Only subsequent copies are pressed. This is the standard way records are made