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APC–2 – A professional record cutter for producing original playback discs

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Re: APC–2 – A professional record cutter for producing original playback discs

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Not even a price listed. I don't understand the market for this - fancy musical instruments for creativity, sure, there's a market, but who wants to own cutting vinyl? How many records would you need to make for this to be more economical than paying a dedicated shop? How many would you need to do to "achieve higher quality"? How consistent are your results?

Maybe a party novelty for hipsters.

This stuff is like expensive watches. If there was no one to show it off to there would be no one who would buy it.

Re: APC–2 – A professional record cutter for producing original playback discs

#43

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Back when I DJ'd techno in the 90s I would have killed for this for what it could bring creatively to a set. Just the ability to cut my own tracks onto white labels and put custom loops etc on vinyl would have really changed things entirely without having to front a whole bunch of cash (which I def did not have) to get a batch of records pressed which probably nobody else would order or play. But now mixing is done d…

I've heard tales of Ritchie Hawtin playing multiple turntables (6-8 depending on who's telling) where he'd have tracks separated as stems into dub plates and do live remixes by swapping out the plates. The things people did before Ableton!

I saw him do 3... maybe 4? tables? But mostly 2 or 3 decks plus a 909.

Around here in Toronto area we had a local (Jeff Milligan / "Algorithm") who was famous for absolutely precise beatmatching, and often 4 deck mixing. Very minimal wonky/bleepy techno.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2083209238436343

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAthnDk7ZcA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6EJOzGj4xM

Re: APC–2 – A professional record cutter for producing original playback discs

#44
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I looked and went, "WTF is that? Looks like a record cutting machine" Scrolled down WTAF I'm a total TE fanboi, I have the OP1F and OP-XY, they're everything I ever wanted and my MPC and Digitakt haven't be touched in months. And the Digitone Keys is unplugged propped against the bookshelf. It's extraordinary how addictive these two little synths are for making things happen. The APC-2, however, is a fascinating outc…

> I've heard every lazy comment about hipsters and rich kids who are supposedly their target audience, and the cost of the products, as if the visible ingredients are all that accounting measure. Swiss watches cost orders of magnitude more than TE's amazing inventions, and their only purpose seems to be to remind the wearer how amazing they are when they look at it.

Nobody pretends that high-end watches are anything besides objets d'art and even then not every watch is a Rolex synonymous with conspicuous consumption. TE, on the other hand, has legions of fans that buy this stuff without knowing the first thing about music production just because they think it's cool and want to try it out. Nobody who buys a $700 Tissot thinks it tells better time than a $17 Casio.

I have no problem with any of this. The world needs more aspiring creatives and it's none of my business how these consumers choose to spend their money. The fact that you find it appropriate to unilaterally shit on people who have nice watches while being in possession of a $2000 groovebox is, however, as the kids say, "a choice."

Re: APC–2 – A professional record cutter for producing original playback discs

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've heard tales of Ritchie Hawtin playing multiple turntables (6-8 depending on who's telling) where he'd have tracks separated as stems into dub plates and do live remixes by swapping out the plates. The things people did before Ableton!

I saw him do 3... maybe 4? tables? But mostly 2 or 3 decks plus a 909. Around here in Toronto area we had a local (Jeff Milligan / "Algorithm") who was famous for absolutely precise beatmatching, and often 4 deck mixing. Very minimal wonky/bleepy techno. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2083209238436343 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAthnDk7ZcA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6EJOzGj4xM

Playing that minimal techno, I'd need at least that many tables just to keep from being bored.

Re: APC–2 – A professional record cutter for producing original playback discs

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Are there bootlegs on vinyl? Maybe now there can be.

Isn't a vinyl cutter the first step when pressing records?

You might need different machines to cut wax/vinyl directly vs cutting lacquer to make a stamper.

Re: APC–2 – A professional record cutter for producing original playback discs

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That fancy box cutter looks high utility; what don't you like about it besides the price? The retraction seems designed for frequently opening boxes, but not constantly. (I open few boxes and have a bog standard box cutter; I haven't used Studio Neat's or OLFA.)

> frequently opening boxes, but not constantly. If you are frequently opening boxes, that spring-loaded mechanism is going to cause repetitive stress injuries. No competent workplace health and safety employee would approve it. Also, if you are using a utility knife frequently, you likely have a depth you want to keep it. Say I’m installing carpeting. I want to set the razor at a depth for the shag of carpet I’m work…

Maybe frequently was the wrong word; I would think spring-loaded would be designed for a lot of cycling between quick cuts and some other tasks, and you didn't want to leave the blade open.

Fixed blade would be best if you were constantly opening boxes and/or you could set your knife down open. And yes, for doing tasks where you are doing longer or more strenuous cutting (carpet is a great example.)

They money is fun to grouse about, but I thought the complaint about the low utility was the interesting bit.

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