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Linux gaming is faster because Windows APIs are becoming Linux kernel features

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Re: Linux gaming is faster because Windows APIs are becoming Linux kernel features

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Microsoft/Xbox is in the process of losing the living room permanently in the next gen if you ask me. I don't know what they could do spanner tossing wise to really screw w/ Linux gaming at this point that wouldn't just drive more frustrated customers off their platform.

Their gaming marketshare is minuscule both on PCs and consoles already. It's a downward spiral for years already.

According to my google searching XBox has almost a quarter of the console gaming market share. Hardly miniscule.

Re: Linux gaming is faster because Windows APIs are becoming Linux kernel features

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AMD. The final holdout, HDMI 2.1 support being blocked by the HDMI group, has been overcome w/ the HDMI group relenting and support is now landing in the kernel (expected in 7.2). https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/05/further-expanded-amd-h...

I didn't follow this story much: how exactly did they get past the legal hurdles? Or there never actually were any hurdles, just sabre rattling?

Purely rumor, but supposedly Valve put tons of pressure on them (no idea by what means, again this is all rumor) because they wanted support for the Steam Machine release.

Re: Linux gaming is faster because Windows APIs are becoming Linux kernel features

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What about macos?

overwatch plays flawlessly on macOS right now, Game Porting Toolkit 2 is DirectX on Metal done by a $1T company.

all that said, they view this as enabling the consumer by supporting their hardware better, they have an antagonist, mafia-like relationship with game developers.

Re: Linux gaming is faster because Windows APIs are becoming Linux kernel features

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If you purpose build a Linux gaming PC, would you lean more towards AMD GPUs over Nvidia?

I bought AMD as my last GPU purely because it meant I didn't have to stress out about how I was actually going to acquire one. I just walked into Microcenter, picked one off the shelf, and checked out. It was the crypto craze then, and I get the impression that this hasn't changed much today with AI sucking all the oxygen out of consumer electronics. Didn't care very much about DLSS or any other Nvidia specific features. That AMD works well on Linux only sweetened the deal.

Re: Linux gaming is faster because Windows APIs are becoming Linux kernel features

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I wonder what spanners Windows can throw into the works to slow them down at this point, or if they're so checked out of the Desktop market as they suckle down hard on that Azure teat, that they're more than happy to let Linux eat their lunch

Microsoft/Xbox is in the process of losing the living room permanently in the next gen if you ask me. I don't know what they could do spanner tossing wise to really screw w/ Linux gaming at this point that wouldn't just drive more frustrated customers off their platform.

Hmm.

Me and all my dad friends are all signing up for XBox accounts so our kids can play Minecraft. So IDK about that.

Re: Linux gaming is faster because Windows APIs are becoming Linux kernel features

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Used to be a staff member working on an x86 OS called CTOS. I realized if I implemented a couple of traps, we could run command-line DOS programs. So I did. And it worked. Dev tools, text processing, piped commands all worked. It helped that the DOS executable format was the same as the CTOS format - because we had traded Bill Gates our linker (which produces executables) for his BASIC compiler.

That's a great twist! Very few people traded Bill Gates a linker for a compiler!

Yes, I agree. Amazing twist of fate.

Re: Linux gaming is faster because Windows APIs are becoming Linux kernel features

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any reason why we are using hdmi over display port?

The vast majority of the TVs only come with HDMI .. not even good enough analog inputs anymore..

What really drives me nuts is smart TVs with 100mbps Ethernet connections. When I bought a tv we looked in vain for gigabit Ethernet.

Re: Linux gaming is faster because Windows APIs are becoming Linux kernel features

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If you purpose build a Linux gaming PC, would you lean more towards AMD GPUs over Nvidia?

AMD has provided great support for far longer, but newer Nvidia cards which support the nvidia-open driver should also be good.

Still, if you don't absolutely need CUDA, then AMD provides better value anyway.

Re: Linux gaming is faster because Windows APIs are becoming Linux kernel features

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Feels like there is some real momentum on linux gaming now. I mostly play older games but I've gotten most of them working acceptably in proton on my old system 76 laptop (oryp5, with a nvidia 2060; ~7 years old). The laptop actually has plenty of power for the games I play, but I underclock to keep the heat/fan speeds down (been doing the same on the win10 install on the same system), still getting acceptable framerate in proton for most of the things I do in game, non intense stuff.

Decades ago I ported some games to linux but I do think proton is the correct approach now. One underappreciated advantage is you get most of the mod environment too. In ESO for instance, there is an addon (tamriel trade center) which lets you download item prices, but it requires a windows client exe to do that. That client works on proton.

I also do some modding myself and can cross compile my rust code to windows with cargo xwin, and run it right away in proton, which is fairly amusing to behold.

I actually don't mind windows generally (been a MS user since DOS 5), but Win11 is a game changer, pun intended, and not in a good way.

Re: Linux gaming is faster because Windows APIs are becoming Linux kernel features

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Nvidia on desktop has been mostly fine, if not rock solid, on the happy path they provide. But their happy path hasn't included proper wayland support for a long time. Nvidia on laptops? Insert the famous Linus Torvalds meme here

> Nvidia on laptops? Insert the famous Linus Torvalds meme here I have an RTX 5070 (whatever the laptop variant is) and it absolutely rocks with almost everything I throw at it, running Ubuntu+Steam+Proton. I no longer worry whether a Windows game is going to run, because almost all of them do with good performance.

I think things might have changed in the last 6-7 years? That's when I switched away from Nvidia.

Or does your laptop have no other igpu?

My last Nvidia laptop was a Hybrid optimus laptop. I almost always ran it on the built in Intel igpu because of the really bad issues with the Nvidia cards. Video tearing, bad power management etc... I remember even switching the GPU wasn't easy... And performance wasn't as good either ..

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