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US Department of Justice has officially reclassified cannabis as less dangerous

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Re: US Department of Justice has officially reclassified cannabis as less dangerous

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Post by GordonS »

Aloha wrote: post #67
GordonS wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just one data point, but I'm neurodivergent, and suffered with depression from childhood. A few years ago I was prescribed medical cannabis to treat chronic pain, and aside from being great for pain - wow, it's changed my life! The right cannabis strains can do wonders for my mood, but it also makes me feel... less autistic, for want of a better way of putting it; suddenly I can understand why somebody said something…

Benzos do the same thing for me, they slow the brain enough so you’re not overthinking everything.

I've had diazapam prescribed a few times, but it doesn't help my mind, and I don't feel like it makes me any more empathic.

Re: US Department of Justice has officially reclassified cannabis as less dangerous

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Post by acessoproibido »

bombcar wrote: post #34
rkozik1989 wrote: post #4

This is ultimately a good thing, but as a country we also need to talk about the effects of cannabis use on neurodivergent folks. Its not as harmful as other drugs but also isn't really a good coping mechanism. Especially if you're neurodivergent and deal with depression. What I've seen being in/out of partial hospitalization programs is that people just don't realize that heavy cannabis is actually causing/prolongin…

There's a general and larger question than just "weed for autists" that needs to be discussed - and it touches on large amounts of the population and "freedoms". We've seen from the gambling legalization, drug legalization, and even things like loot boxes, etc, that there is a subset of the population who just cannot handle these things at a level most people would consider "responsible". We last had this nation-wide…

Prohibition has its problems is a big understatement.

After almost 40 years of war on drugs the problem with hard drugs is bigger than ever in the US (and other places). Meanwhile countries that have a more relaxed approach are doing much better.

I'm not saying legalize everything always but prohibition also ain't it.

Re: US Department of Justice has officially reclassified cannabis as less dangerous

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Post by bluecheese452 »

tombert wrote: post #37
rkozik1989 wrote: post #4

This is ultimately a good thing, but as a country we also need to talk about the effects of cannabis use on neurodivergent folks. Its not as harmful as other drugs but also isn't really a good coping mechanism. Especially if you're neurodivergent and deal with depression. What I've seen being in/out of partial hospitalization programs is that people just don't realize that heavy cannabis is actually causing/prolongin…

I've never actually touched weed, but I would see this with my friends in high school and college. In the better case, they just become insufferable and pseudo-intellectual because they started watching Alan Watts and Carl Sagan while stoned and would become convinced that they know everything about physics and philosophy. In a lot of cases though, and this is more obvious in hindsight, it feels like they were using…

On the other hand I and a lot of my friends who were unhappy did it, grew out of it, and found some happiness.

Meanwhile I know many people who did the therapy rout and are still there decades later. Not sure their path was better.

Re: US Department of Justice has officially reclassified cannabis as less dangerous

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Post by everdrive »

thinkingtoilet wrote: post #25
chneu wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Multiple large studies and metanalysis show very little support for the notion that marijuana treats most mental health conditions, such as depression and anxiety. It's definitely not the "cure all" that a lot of folks think it is.

I am hippy among hippies and the only people who ever talk about it as a 'cure all' are the people really far gone. People who think crystals can cure sicknesses. Those type of people. It's literally a god send to people with stomach problems, it can help you go to sleep but I would bet everything I own it's not as deep and good a sleep as sleeping sober. I've heard people say the ointments can help with certain pain…

I hear this kind of talk relatively frequently and do not generally have "far gone" friends.

Re: US Department of Justice has officially reclassified cannabis as less dangerous

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Post by giantg2 »

glitchc wrote: post #93
giantg2 wrote: post #66

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"If you wanted to, you could sign an affidavit that would ban you from the casino floor on the risk of a misdemeanor trespassing charge." Let's help people by criminalizing them so they have a harder time getting a job and all that...

These affidavits aren't used to penalize the individual, they are used to protect the casinos from nuisance lawsuits when they escort the individual off the property. Basically, if you sue claiming assault, you are opening yourself up to a criminal charge. It's an effective deterrent. A casino doesn't ever need to call the cops to deal with you, they have their own private force.

Some casinos have public law enforcement, depending on the state. They don't need an affidavit to trespass someone (likely at the summary offense level depending on state), especially since it's all recorded. You shouldn't be able to sue someone while committing a trespass due to the clean hands doctrine, depending on state.

Re: US Department of Justice has officially reclassified cannabis as less dangerous

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Post by everdrive »

R_D_Olivaw wrote: post #23
rkozik1989 wrote: post #4

This is ultimately a good thing, but as a country we also need to talk about the effects of cannabis use on neurodivergent folks. Its not as harmful as other drugs but also isn't really a good coping mechanism. Especially if you're neurodivergent and deal with depression. What I've seen being in/out of partial hospitalization programs is that people just don't realize that heavy cannabis is actually causing/prolongin…

I think a significant portion of this has to do with the absolute insane levels of THC that is being circulated these days. ~20% minimums of THC is bonkers

This isn't meant a as a challenge to your point. I'd be curious for your opinion about what constitutes an excessive and a proper amount of THC in milligrams. I see the measurements on drinks and such at the gas station but I don't have any personal gauge for what would constitute a large amount.

Re: US Department of Justice has officially reclassified cannabis as less dangerous

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Post by everdrive »

oompydoompy74 wrote: post #12

Regulating human consumption of anything that grows from the ground is absolutely ridiculous. It’s an affront to the natural order. At the minimum, nobody should have the ability to tell me I can’t buy seeds and grow a plant for my own personal consumption.

Try not to think about poppy flowers I guess.

Re: US Department of Justice has officially reclassified cannabis as less dangerous

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Post by guzfip »

giantg2 wrote: post #97
nemomarx wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alcohol is one of the more dangerous drugs on most scales, so it's kind of a low bar? The drug to beat would be safer than nicotine probably.

"Alcohol is one of the more dangerous drugs on most scales" Can you provide those scales?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:HarmCausedByDrugsTab...

Re: US Department of Justice has officially reclassified cannabis as less dangerous

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Post by piperswe »

atonse wrote: post #77

Honestly, I have zero issues with legalizing marijuana (I'm not an expert on the effects), but I just don't like how the smell really travels and overwhelms local areas nowadays. Fair or not, I think it smells stronger than cigarette smoke (which smells more like a neutral smoke maybe?) so has a higher annoyance factor. So over time, I've gotten more in the camp of "completely ok with the gummies being legal, not so…

I fully agree. I personally think it should be at least socially unacceptable, or potentially ticketable, to smoke/vape anything in such a way that it someone that doesn't want to smell it can smell it. If someone wants to smoke on their land in the middle of nowhere I don't care, but if you live in society you can get your marijuana/nicotine fix without bothering everyone in your vicinity.

Re: US Department of Justice has officially reclassified cannabis as less dangerous

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Post by 999900000999 »

rkozik1989 wrote: post #4

This is ultimately a good thing, but as a country we also need to talk about the effects of cannabis use on neurodivergent folks. Its not as harmful as other drugs but also isn't really a good coping mechanism. Especially if you're neurodivergent and deal with depression. What I've seen being in/out of partial hospitalization programs is that people just don't realize that heavy cannabis is actually causing/prolongin…

No.

Let adults do what they want.

A much better argument could be made for banning corn syrup. This cheap fake sugar is behind so many health issues.

Even just a switch to real sugar would do wonders. However I don’t believe the government should ban it.

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