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US Department of Justice has officially reclassified cannabis as less dangerous

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Re: US Department of Justice has officially reclassified cannabis as less dangerous

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Regulating human consumption of anything that grows from the ground is absolutely ridiculous. It’s an affront to the natural order. At the minimum, nobody should have the ability to tell me I can’t buy seeds and grow a plant for my own personal consumption.

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Yes it should be OK, poisoning people is still illegal

Re: US Department of Justice has officially reclassified cannabis as less dangerous

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Regulating human consumption of anything that grows from the ground is absolutely ridiculous. It’s an affront to the natural order. At the minimum, nobody should have the ability to tell me I can’t buy seeds and grow a plant for my own personal consumption.

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>So it should be OK to sell hemlock or nightshade and other all-natural plant-based poisons?

Rofl. Yeah sure but who's buying? Approximately nobody. So there's no harm and not even a problem for regulation to solve.

>Maybe even give them to others?

Already illegal depending upon the details of "give".

>Why is it any more or less acceptable to regulate the use of chemistry equipment than of agricultural products?

Because speculative "someone might" or "at scale we've noted that " claims are not sufficient ground for restricting the freedom of individuals. Those who argue otherwise have bad morals.

When you start talking about widespread industry and known, defined and obviously present harms (see for example all those pictures of odd colored rivers in the 50s-70s, use of lead paint in residential settings, etc) it's a different story but the bar for regulating what one may possess and use/consume in the privacy of their own home ought to be many orders of magnitude higher.

Re: US Department of Justice has officially reclassified cannabis as less dangerous

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This is ultimately a good thing, but as a country we also need to talk about the effects of cannabis use on neurodivergent folks. Its not as harmful as other drugs but also isn't really a good coping mechanism. Especially if you're neurodivergent and deal with depression. What I've seen being in/out of partial hospitalization programs is that people just don't realize that heavy cannabis is actually causing/prolongin…

I think a significant portion of this has to do with the absolute insane levels of THC that is being circulated these days. ~20% minimums of THC is bonkers

Re: US Department of Justice has officially reclassified cannabis as less dangerous

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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>So it should be OK to sell hemlock or nightshade and other all-natural plant-based poisons? Rofl. Yeah sure but who's buying? Approximately nobody. So there's no harm and not even a problem for regulation to solve. >Maybe even give them to others? Already illegal depending upon the details of "give". >Why is it any more or less acceptable to regulate the use of chemistry equipment than of agricultural products? Beca…

Fully agree with this. Well put.

Re: US Department of Justice has officially reclassified cannabis as less dangerous

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This is ultimately a good thing, but as a country we also need to talk about the effects of cannabis use on neurodivergent folks. Its not as harmful as other drugs but also isn't really a good coping mechanism. Especially if you're neurodivergent and deal with depression. What I've seen being in/out of partial hospitalization programs is that people just don't realize that heavy cannabis is actually causing/prolongin…

Multiple large studies and metanalysis show very little support for the notion that marijuana treats most mental health conditions, such as depression and anxiety. It's definitely not the "cure all" that a lot of folks think it is.

I am hippy among hippies and the only people who ever talk about it as a 'cure all' are the people really far gone. People who think crystals can cure sicknesses. Those type of people. It's literally a god send to people with stomach problems, it can help you go to sleep but I would bet everything I own it's not as deep and good a sleep as sleeping sober. I've heard people say the ointments can help with certain pains. That's about it.

Re: US Department of Justice has officially reclassified cannabis as less dangerous

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This is ultimately a good thing, but as a country we also need to talk about the effects of cannabis use on neurodivergent folks. Its not as harmful as other drugs but also isn't really a good coping mechanism. Especially if you're neurodivergent and deal with depression. What I've seen being in/out of partial hospitalization programs is that people just don't realize that heavy cannabis is actually causing/prolongin…

I agree, though if the end result of this change is that people use cannabis at concerts and clubs instead of alcohol, I believe that's a harm reduction.

Re: US Department of Justice has officially reclassified cannabis as less dangerous

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Regulating human consumption of anything that grows from the ground is absolutely ridiculous. It’s an affront to the natural order. At the minimum, nobody should have the ability to tell me I can’t buy seeds and grow a plant for my own personal consumption.

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> So it should be OK to sell hemlock or nightshade and other all-natural plant-based poisons?

Sure, why not? Especially the plant itself, I see little reason to regulate it any more than any other kind of plant. Maybe require good labeling is in place, but other than that why not?

If anything one would regulate cultivating it in the US due to it being an invasive species, and really shouldn't be grown in North America. But the cats out of the bag on that one, its already all over the place.

Re: US Department of Justice has officially reclassified cannabis as less dangerous

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Multiple large studies and metanalysis show very little support for the notion that marijuana treats most mental health conditions, such as depression and anxiety. It's definitely not the "cure all" that a lot of folks think it is.

In a significant fraction of users, there is a risk of marijuana induced psychoses. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle...

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Re: US Department of Justice has officially reclassified cannabis as less dangerous

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This is ultimately a good thing, but as a country we also need to talk about the effects of cannabis use on neurodivergent folks. Its not as harmful as other drugs but also isn't really a good coping mechanism. Especially if you're neurodivergent and deal with depression. What I've seen being in/out of partial hospitalization programs is that people just don't realize that heavy cannabis is actually causing/prolongin…

this is what gives me pause about this issue

it's easy to just look at the upside of something that doesn't hurt you and you just have an extra choice, but knowing that it can and does wreck the lives of many, I feel that it's a painful thing for me to vote for, or against

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