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Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by wheelerwj »

mixermachine wrote: post #96
chandureddyvari wrote: post #40

Claude has gotten noticeably worse for me too. It goes into long exploration loops for 5+ minutes even when I point it to the exact files to inspect. Then 30 minutes later I hit session limits. Three sessions like that in a day, and suddenly 25% of the weekly limit is gone. I ended up buying the $100 Codex plan. So far it has been much more generous with usage and more accurate than Claude for the kind of work I do.…

I'm using the Codex Business subscription (about 30€) already for multiple months. Even there they cut back on the quota. A few months back it was hard for me to reach the limit. Now it is easier. Still, in comparison with Claude Code, the quota of Codex is a much better deal. However, they should not make it worse...

I have the exact opposite experience. I can run claude forever, my codex quota was done by Wednesday morning.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by KaoruAoiShiho »

wesammikhail wrote: post #95
fooster wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where is your evidence of this "massive cost"? Inference is massively profitable for both anthropic and openai. Training is not.

source?

After googling https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1psesym/openai...

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by hirako2000 »

throwaway2027 wrote: post #92
hirako2000 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I refuse to use anthropic's models (and openai, gemini) because the math simply doesn't add up. To add the fact we are being taken for fools with dramatic announcements, FOMOs messages. I even suspect some reaction farms are going on to boost post from people boasting Claude models. These don't happen for codex. Nor for mistral. Nor for deepseek. It can't just be that Claude code is so much better. There are open wei…

Mistral isn't that great. Deepseek was good when they first had thinking. But most people just try something out and if that doesn't work on that model then it's bad and for Claude and Codex and Gemini they just are that much better now, but if they quantize or cut limits they destabilize and you're right you might as well just use something worse but reliable.

I regularly compare models. You are right Deepseek was more impressive when the latest came out. But since then they accepted to slow down throughout and keep the same quality.

I often compare with Gemini. Sure those Google servers are super fast. But I can't see it better. Qwen and deepseek simply work better for me.

Haven't tested Mistral in a while, you may be right.

People try out and feel comfortable: using U.S models (I can see the logic), but mostly for brand recognition. Anthropic and OpenAi are the best aren't they? When the models jam they blame themselves.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by cjonas »

cedws wrote: post #75
chandureddyvari wrote: post #40

Claude has gotten noticeably worse for me too. It goes into long exploration loops for 5+ minutes even when I point it to the exact files to inspect. Then 30 minutes later I hit session limits. Three sessions like that in a day, and suddenly 25% of the weekly limit is gone. I ended up buying the $100 Codex plan. So far it has been much more generous with usage and more accurate than Claude for the kind of work I do.…

I had a weird experience at work last week where Claude was just thinking forever about tasks and not actually doing anything. It was unusable. The next day it was fine again.

Ya I've had this experience more than a few times recently. I've heard people claiming they are serving quantized models during high loads, but it happens in cursor as well so I don't think it's specific to Anthropics subscription. It could be that the context window has just gotten into a state that confuses the model... But that wouldn't explain why it appears to be temporary...

My best guess is this is the result of the companies running "experiments" to test changes. Or it's just all in my head :)

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by jedisct1 »

vidarh wrote: post #51
jedisct1 wrote: post #7

GPT-5.4 works amazingly well. I’ve moved away from Claude and toward open-source models plus a ChatGPT subscription. That setup has worked really well for me: the subscription is generous, the API is flexible, and it fits nicely into my workflow. GPT-5.4 + Swival ( https://swival.dev ) are now my daily drivers.

I hit the limits on the lower tiers of Codex just as fast as with Claude. At the moment I'm cycling between Claude, Codex, GLM5.1, and Kimi. The latter two are getting good enough, though, that I can make things go really far by doing planning with Opus and then switching to one of the cheap models for execution.

I have a ChatGPT Pro plan, I use it a ton, and I've never hit the limit in the past few months.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by GodelNumbering »

In the anticipation of a future where,

a) quotas will get restricted

b) the subscription plan prices will go up

c) all LLMs will become good enough at coding tasks

I just open sourced a coding agent https://github.com/dirac-run/dirac

The entire goal is to be token efficient (over 50% cheaper), and by extension, take advantage of LLM's better reasoning at shorter context lengths

This really started as an internal side project that made me more productive, I hope it will help others too. Apache 2.0

Currently it still can't compete the subsidized coding plan rates using Anthropic API pricing though (even though it beats CC while both use API key), which tells me that all subscription plan operators are losing money on such plans

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by mchinen »

I've been feeling the squeeze too. I've tried switching between different models as a test, I can at least say it feels like the limits are about half of what they used to be a few months ago. I'd be totally willing to concede that this is just my perception if Anthropic would only release some tools for measuring your usage.

In theory the /stats command tells you how many tokens you've used, which you could use to compute how much you are getting for your subscription, but in practice it doesn't contain any useful info, it may be counting what is printed to the terminal or something - my stats suggest my claude code usage is a tiny amount of tokens, but they must be an extremely underestimated token count, or they are charging much more for the subscription than the API per token (which is not supposed to be the case).

Last week's free extra usage quota shed some light on this. It seems like the reported tokens are probably are between 1/30th to 1/100th of the actual tokens billed, from looking at how they billed (/stats went up 10k tokens and I was billed $7.10). With the API it should be $25 for a million tokens.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by fluidcruft »

meetingthrower wrote: post #56

I don't get it. Last week on the 100 bucks plan I generated probably 50k LOC (not a quality measure for sure!) and just barely kissed the weekly limit. I did get rate limited on some sessions for sure, but that's to be expected. I'm curious what are people doing that is consuming your limits? I can't imagine filling the $200 a month plan unless I was essentially using Claude code itself as the api to mass process stu…

I don't hit limits either on $100, it's more that claude-code seems to be constantly broken and they added some vague bullshit about not using claude-code before 2pm so I just don't expect it to work anymore and tend to use codex-cli as my driver nowadays. I also never hit limits in codex but... codex is $20/mo not $100/mo so it's making me consider relocating the $100 I spend to Anthropic as play money for z.ai and other tools. I think claude-code has great training wheels (codex does not) but once the training wheels come off, and claude-code becomes as unreliable as it has been then it makes you consider alternatives.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by gedy »

freedomben wrote: post #78
meetingthrower wrote: post #56

I don't get it. Last week on the 100 bucks plan I generated probably 50k LOC (not a quality measure for sure!) and just barely kissed the weekly limit. I did get rate limited on some sessions for sure, but that's to be expected. I'm curious what are people doing that is consuming your limits? I can't imagine filling the $200 a month plan unless I was essentially using Claude code itself as the api to mass process stu…

What does it look like when you get rate limited? Does the instance just kind of sit and spin? I suspect I was getting rate limited very aggressively on Thursday last week. It honestly infuriated me, because I'm paying $200 a month for this thing. If it's going to rate limit me, at least tell me what it's doing instead of just making it seem like it's taking 12 hours to run through something that I would expect to be…

> because I'm paying $200 a month for this thing.

My gut feeling is this is not enough money for them by far (not to mention their investors), and we'll eventually get ratcheted up inline with dev salaries. E.g. "look how many devs you didn't have to hire", etc.

Re: Pro Max 5x quota exhausted in 1.5 hours despite moderate usage

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Post by scrollop »

fooster wrote: post #91
1970-01-01 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lights on = Ads in your output. EOY latest; they can't keep kicking the massive costs down the road.

Where is your evidence of this "massive cost"? Inference is massively profitable for both anthropic and openai. Training is not.

The majority of accounts are free - these are profitable?

IMO they need as many users before their IPO - then the changes will really begin.

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