Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Tom Homan confirms ICE to be at airports starting Monday

politico.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

101–104 of 104 posts

Re: Tom Homan confirms ICE to be at airports starting Monday

#101

Post by UncleMeat »

5555624 wrote: post #58
altairprime wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t forget racism. This administration got elected in large part because they are openly racist, delivering outcomes at a velocity that ‘Southern’ dog-whistle deniability doesn’t allow for those that do , for whatever reason, want to continue having positive or neutral reputation with those opposed to racism (which includes half of U.S. women, or more if you limit to those younger than 30) while also benefiting per…

racism was a minor factor in the 2024 election. Had Harris been white, she still would have lost. She ran a campaign that said nothing about what she as going to do, she only said how evil Trump would be. She lost the election when she was asked on "The View," a Democrat friendly show, if there was anything she would do differently than Biden. There's only one wrong answer to that question ad she gasve, saying not a…

It isn't just "the dem candidate is black and I am racist so I will vote for the republican candidate." Trump and his people going on TV and whipping up racist paranoia about how refugees are eating people's pets and how he is going to get rid of all of the immigrants motivates racists to the polls.

Re: Tom Homan confirms ICE to be at airports starting Monday

#102

Post by UncleMeat »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #81
estearum wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Conspiratorial thinking can't be fixed with additional facts. There is no set of facts that conclusively establish any claim to someone who is already committed not to believing the claim.

Additional facts can slow the rate at which conspiracy theorists can convert others. It helps if the additional facts are visibly obvious.

A common property of conspiracies is that any evidence is evidence of the conspiracy. Not enough data produces "what are they hiding" stuff. More data produces deliberate misunderstandings of the data to justify the conspiracy. We saw this very clearly with covid. When public health agencies were less transparant it was evidence of an evil coverup. When public agencies were more transparant about limitations or things they didn't fully understand it was evidence that public health efforts didn't work.

Re: Tom Homan confirms ICE to be at airports starting Monday

#103

Post by Schmerika »

paulddraper wrote: post #96
Schmerika wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Democrats funded, armed and protected a live-streamed genocide so horrific that roughly a third of their own hard-core base (Biden 2020 voters) couldn't bring themselves to vote for Harris, even in a close race against Trump [0]. There are other reasons Dems lost, also important. Still, genocide remains the blazing neon-red 12-ton elephant in the room. And there seems to be absolutely no sign of owning that fact, whi…

> roughly a third of their own hard-core base (Biden 2020 voters) couldn't bring themselves to vote for Harris, No, roughly a third of Biden voters who voted for someone other than Harris cited the Gaza conflict.

That's an important distinction, thank you.

However, it still points to the fact that Harris lost millions of votes due to her support for arming Israel.

And, even for the people who voted Harris there was a distinct lack of enthusiasm - directly because of Gaza.

> Even among Biden 2020 voters who did vote for Harris in battleground states, voters by a seven-to-one margin say they would have been more enthusiastic in their support if Harris “pledged to break from President Biden's policy toward Gaza by promising to withhold additional weapons to Israel” rather than less enthusiastic.

> More enthusiastic - 35% > Less enthusiastic - 5%

Post reply on HN