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Tom Homan confirms ICE to be at airports starting Monday

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Re: Tom Homan confirms ICE to be at airports starting Monday

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Post by Buttons840 »

mullingitover wrote: post #35

Seems like a big own-goal for the administration to inject an agency which (according to polls[1]) is quite broadly hated into the daily lives of millions. Politically they're just going from failure (immigration policy broadly considered a failure) to failure (starting a new forever war in the middle east is universally hated) to failure (this). It's no wonder they're trying to burn the election system to the ground…

If they ever need a group to enforce their election ~~laws~~ executive orders, I wonder what group they might choose?

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Post by Buttons840 »

apothegm wrote: post #44
paulddraper wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did they get elected?

Misinformation, low voter turnout, and an electoral system that massively over-represents people living in areas of low population density and underrepresents those living in areas of high population density. That’s ignoring any possibility of interference with insecure voting or tallying computers.

We need paper ballots because people can understand them. Election conspiracy theories are becoming a problem. Having a counting process that people can understand and trust is a feature.

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Post by mullingitover »

Buttons840 wrote: post #52
apothegm wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Misinformation, low voter turnout, and an electoral system that massively over-represents people living in areas of low population density and underrepresents those living in areas of high population density. That’s ignoring any possibility of interference with insecure voting or tallying computers.

We need paper ballots because people can understand them. Election conspiracy theories are becoming a problem. Having a counting process that people can understand and trust is a feature.

We already use paper ballots[1].

You can't use reason to get people out of a mindset they didn't use reason to get into.

[1] https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/some...

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Post by aaomidi »

0xy wrote: post #21
selectodude wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As they should be. I don’t want to fund DHS and I’m happy my reps are doing their job to keep it shut down. Funding TSA specifically is acceptable and has in fact been voted down in the senate by republicans several times now.

Why do you oppose FEMA funding?

FEMA does not and should not be a part of DHS. Good try though.

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Post by gsnedders »

paulddraper wrote: post #43
general1465 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And once you have probable cause, you run into the problem 8 USC 1304(e) creates: someone who doesn’t have documentation proving their legal immigration status falls into one of two categories, they’re either a citizen, or they’re an immigrant violating that section. So hopefully if you are tourist from abroad, CBP will give you stamp into your passport, otherwise you have entered "illegally". They are not always s…

Isn’t the stamp necessary? Under what circumstances would they not?

A lot of countries don’t stamp passports — if you can guarantee the entry is immediately recorded in your central database, and you can reliably look up the latest entry for a given passport, a stamp doesn’t really gain much.

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Post by 5555624 »

altairprime wrote: post #50
apothegm wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Misinformation, low voter turnout, and an electoral system that massively over-represents people living in areas of low population density and underrepresents those living in areas of high population density. That’s ignoring any possibility of interference with insecure voting or tallying computers.

Don’t forget racism. This administration got elected in large part because they are openly racist, delivering outcomes at a velocity that ‘Southern’ dog-whistle deniability doesn’t allow for those that do , for whatever reason, want to continue having positive or neutral reputation with those opposed to racism (which includes half of U.S. women, or more if you limit to those younger than 30) while also benefiting per…

racism was a minor factor in the 2024 election. Had Harris been white, she still would have lost. She ran a campaign that said nothing about what she as going to do, she only said how evil Trump would be. She lost the election when she was asked on "The View," a Democrat friendly show, if there was anything she would do differently than Biden. There's only one wrong answer to that question ad she gasve, saying not a thing. Had she just said she'd tackle the border and illegal immigration, she'd have had a chance.

Had Biden kept to his word and been one and one, the Democrats would have had a primary and selected a candidate who could have won. (Harris would not have won the nomination in any sort of primary.)

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Post by cosmicgadget »

paulddraper wrote: post #40
mullingitover wrote: post #35

Seems like a big own-goal for the administration to inject an agency which (according to polls[1]) is quite broadly hated into the daily lives of millions. Politically they're just going from failure (immigration policy broadly considered a failure) to failure (starting a new forever war in the middle east is universally hated) to failure (this). It's no wonder they're trying to burn the election system to the ground…

How did they get elected?

Centrist voters didn't understand that that inflation and monetary policy are subject to momentum.
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