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FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

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Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

#101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> any judge that doesn't immediately reject such cases on a first-amendment basis If you say something illegal in a chat with a cop in it, or say it in public, I don’t think there are Constitutional issues with the police using that as evidence. (If you didn’t say anything illegal, you have a valid defence.)

Sure. Can you give me an example of something that's illegal to say in a group chat that coordinates legal observers?

"ICE are at (address)" apparently

Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

#102
post #19

A wise man told me, you know signal works because its banned in Russia. I also find it incredibly ironic that they have a problem with this, when the DoD is flagrantly using signal for classified communications.

They aren't taking issue with Signal, per se... they are upset that people are sharing the whereabouts and movements of ICE officers. Signal just seems to be the medium-of-choice. And this just happens to give them a chance to declare Signal as "bad", since they can't spy on Signal en masse.

Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

#104
post #3

i suppose what he means is that the phones of protestors which have signal chat will be investigated. Assuming they dont have disappearing messages activated, and assuming any protestors willingly unlock their phones.

Unlocking isn't necessary, We've already seen that Apple and Google will turn data over on government requests. https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-complies-percent-us-go...

Non-paywalled link?

Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

#105
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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And you need to watch the videos but I imagine the cognitive dissonance is too uncomfortable.

When Trump saw the video of Renee Good's execution, he faltered. He hadn't seen that before.

Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

#108

I’d be curious to know what they plan to charge people with.

18 U.S.C. § 372 — Conspiracy to impede or injure officer

If two or more persons in any State, Territory, Possession, or District conspire to prevent, by force, intimidation, or threat, any person from accepting or holding any office, trust, or place of confidence under the United States, or from discharging any duties thereof, or to induce by like means any officer of the United States to leave the place where his duties as an officer are required to be performed, or to injure him in his person or property on account of his lawful discharge of the duties of his office, or while engaged in the lawful discharge thereof, or to injure his property so as to molest, interrupt, hinder, or impede him in the discharge of his official duties, each of such persons shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six years, or both.

Federal felony

Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

#109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Conspiracy to commit a crime is typically not included in protected speech. Whether you think that's happening here will depend mostly on what side you take, I suspect.

Interesting that there would be people on a "side" that think there was a conspiracy to commit a crime. What crime?

Interference with a law enforcement investigation?

Re: FBI is investigating Minnesota Signal chats tracking ICE

#110
post #74

Why? That's unequivocally constitutionally protected speech. Why is our tax money being wasted on this?

They're "investigating", presumably with data gleaned from arrests and CIs; you have a right to speech, and a right not to be prosecuted for speech, but a much, much narrower right not to be "investigated", collapsing to ~epsilon when the investigation involves data the FBI already has.

No. According to the latest reports, while searching for ICE vehicles, the protesters are unlawfully scanning license plates, which strongly suggests they are receiving insider help.
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