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Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

#101

Post by ranon »

sandworm101 wrote: post #94
nashashmi wrote: post #37

> Currently, openpilot performs the functions of Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) and Automated Lane Centering (ALC). openpilot can accelerate, brake automatically for other vehicles, and steer to follow the road/lane. [1] [Some of the] Cars that are currently supported already have "smart cruise" and "lane follow". Why then use a third-party self-driving system? [1] https://comma.ai/openpilot#:~:text=Currently%2C%20ope…

Lane follow? Does it have lane discovery? There was snow on my commute this morning. 4-land highway was basically follow the leader. Pick some line where you think there is the most traction and stick with it. I have yet to see footage of an autodrive system in such a situation.

Yes, models have been laneless for awhile

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

#102

Post by knowitnone3 »

ripped_britches wrote: post #98

I'm sure the technology is great, but what would be really great for me to use theoretically use it would be for it to be if the company was liable if it caused an at-fault accident. I don't know much about the law around this, but I comfortably get in a Waymo all the time because I have some intuition about it that tells me that their lawyers are scared shitless of killing someone. It's a hard sell for me when it sa…

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Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

#103

Post by fc417fc802 »

zoeysmithe wrote: post #83
positron26 wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone who hates driving, being stuck in traffic, anyone who benefits when the cost of transportation is cheaper, anyone who hates insurance, all of society benefits. In some parallel universe self driving and fusion are both crash projects receiving well administered social scale funding. Lots of things are. It is somewhat miraculous that we don't all live in this conclusion, realizing these huge value creation oppo…

None of that is solved by automated driving. You want public trains, BRT bus systems, trams, etc. The ideal universe is you stepping on public trans, not piloting various rube goldberg-esque machines that are far more dangerous and will always contribute to traffic and "one more lane" does not work.

Sure, public transit can be nice. But so is owning my own vehicle that isn't subject to routes, schedules, and minimal luggage constraints. I'd much rather hang out and read a book or play a video game than babysit a vehicle in stop and go traffic for half an hour. Even if traffic is moving at a decent clip I'd still rather do something else.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

#104

Post by knowitnone3 »

digitalPhonix wrote: post #40
sitharus wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the moment in every jurisdiction I’m aware of the driver is always considered as “in charge” of the vehicle no matter what assistance functions are being used. It’s the driver’s responsibility to avoid collisions in all cases. If you have a collision and your vehicle is judged at fault by whatever authority does it in your area the you are liable.

Mercedes Drive Pilot (“SAE Level 3”) is certified on some very specific stretches of insterstate in California to not require the driver to be responsible. https://www.mbusa.com/en/owners/manuals/drive-pilot Requirements: - Stop and go traffic (or less than 40mph?) - On some specific sections of highway - Driver doesn’t need to monitor but must be ready to take over with 15(?) seconds of the system requesting > Merce…

that's really dumb of Mercedes take on that liability for little benefit - sell more cars, make more profit? My prediction is MB drops this or goes bankrupt in the next 10 years.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

#105

Post by justapassenger »

It’s NOT self driving. It’s level 2 driving assist. Really good one, but that has nothing to do with self driving. You are driving the car all the time, it’s only assist that can (and will) try to kill you (and others) with 0 notice if you don’t pay attention.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

#106

Post by mannykannot »

digitalPhonix wrote: post #40
sitharus wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the moment in every jurisdiction I’m aware of the driver is always considered as “in charge” of the vehicle no matter what assistance functions are being used. It’s the driver’s responsibility to avoid collisions in all cases. If you have a collision and your vehicle is judged at fault by whatever authority does it in your area the you are liable.

Mercedes Drive Pilot (“SAE Level 3”) is certified on some very specific stretches of insterstate in California to not require the driver to be responsible. https://www.mbusa.com/en/owners/manuals/drive-pilot Requirements: - Stop and go traffic (or less than 40mph?) - On some specific sections of highway - Driver doesn’t need to monitor but must be ready to take over with 15(?) seconds of the system requesting > Merce…

That last criterion most assuredly will not be matched here.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

#107

Post by sebmellen »

ab_testing wrote: post #22
sebmellen wrote: post #2

Comma is my favorite “AI” company. Really incredible piece of tech in a tiny package, and it truly improves your life to have it. I wish it worked with my Mitsubishi Outlander, but just having it on my Corolla is enough. Their supported brand list will definitely factor into my next car buying decision.

How is the experience on the Corolla. How much can it do by itself?

Extremely good. You can go hands off for long periods.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

#108

Post by ddalex »

justapassenger wrote: post #105

It’s NOT self driving. It’s level 2 driving assist. Really good one, but that has nothing to do with self driving. You are driving the car all the time, it’s only assist that can (and will) try to kill you (and others) with 0 notice if you don’t pay attention.

> Really good one ... that can (and will) try to kill you (and others) ...

I'm afraid to ask about the bad ones.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

#109

Post by ddalex »

knowitnone3 wrote: post #102
ripped_britches wrote: post #98

I'm sure the technology is great, but what would be really great for me to use theoretically use it would be for it to be if the company was liable if it caused an at-fault accident. I don't know much about the law around this, but I comfortably get in a Waymo all the time because I have some intuition about it that tells me that their lawyers are scared shitless of killing someone. It's a hard sell for me when it sa…

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> anyone stupid enough to install and use this on the road

I can't believe that people are willing to put their lives in the hands of a DIY solution with no convincing acceptance tests.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

#110

Post by tomhow »

knowitnone3 wrote: post #102
ripped_britches wrote: post #98

I'm sure the technology is great, but what would be really great for me to use theoretically use it would be for it to be if the company was liable if it caused an at-fault accident. I don't know much about the law around this, but I comfortably get in a Waymo all the time because I have some intuition about it that tells me that their lawyers are scared shitless of killing someone. It's a hard sell for me when it sa…

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