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High-speed train collision in Spain kills at least 39
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unless there is evidence that the accident was caused by the Iryo train, I wouldn’t be so fast to blame the private companies on a decaying infrastructure. There are plenty of cases of lack of maintenance in the railway network.
> Unless there is evidence that the accident was caused by the Iryo train I'd say the same about the railway network. We don't know what happened yet.
The railway network has been mismanaged and plagued with incidents for years. See it for yourself: ADIF was aware that there were issues in Adamuz for months[1].
[1]: https://www.elespanol.com/reportajes/20260119/adif-notifico-...
Re: High-speed train collision in Spain kills at least 39
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Indeed last year some machinists had to derail a train to stop it from crashing other[2]. They were pulling it uphill with another unit, and the coupler broke so it rolled backwards and flipped at the curve.
Im what context it is normal to derail a train to avoid a crash with another one?
What course of action would you have suggested?
Re: High-speed train collision in Spain kills at least 39
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Indeed last year some machinists had to derail a train to stop it from crashing other[2]. They were pulling it uphill with another unit, and the coupler broke so it rolled backwards and flipped at the curve.
Im what context it is normal to derail a train to avoid a crash with another one?
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss-made/the-runaway-swiss-tr...
More often than you think.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch_points
Especially when the train to be derailed is slow-moving or a freight train or runaway.
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Is information war telling that the railway transport authority was aware of issues in the accident location for years?[1]
[1]: https://www.elespanol.com/reportajes/20260119/adif-notifico-...
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can tell that you really don't like the current government but you should relax a little. There is an accident with death people, maybe people still trapped there and the causes are still unknown. Too early to start playing politics, don't you think?
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Re: High-speed train collision in Spain kills at least 39
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Train crashes like this are _so_ rare. It's not as safe as flying but AFAICT in rich countries it's the same rough order of magnitude in terms of danger level. I don't have data but I would imagine crashes on these high speed lines (which always seem to be run at a higher level of professionalism than the general networks) are rarest of all. I don't think it's a good use of mental energy to plan for a crash like this…
>It's not as safe as flying In France and Japan, HSR has had zero fatalities in the entire period of operation. In China, HSR had AFAIR one fatal crash, with 40 fatalities. Per passenger-mile, Chinese HSR is twice as safe as US air travel.
>In France and Japan, HSR has had zero fatalities in the entire period of operation.
Re: High-speed train collision in Spain kills at least 39
#109If you’re interested in this kind of thing, look up plainly difficult on youtube. He has more videos on train crashes than I’ve seen, and I’m embarrassed how many I’ve seen. Here’s one to get you started: https://youtu.be/VV2rIHEp5AM?si=sSBT9s49PqbLTGbt There are a lot of safety lessons embedded in these videos, which is why I like them. I also did a double take when I heard "semaphore"; its history goes back far lon…
No cause is known yet, but based on the videos, what’s the most likely reason for crashes? Bad tracks? Some human error resulting in collision?
What's the befit of speculating at this point? Let the investigators investigate, and hopefully some lessons will be learned.
Re: High-speed train collision in Spain kills at least 39
#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Unless there is evidence that the accident was caused by the Iryo train I'd say the same about the railway network. We don't know what happened yet.
The railway network has been mismanaged and plagued with incidents for years. See it for yourself: ADIF was aware that there were issues in Adamuz for months[1]. [1]: https://www.elespanol.com/reportajes/20260119/adif-notifico-...
That doesn't mean we know for sure it was that, don't you think? Your comments seem very politically motivated, and you're asking others to not blame it on the train as the reasons for the accident are still unknown and at the same time you're pushing the maintenance issues narrative.