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Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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Post by epistasis »

everdrive wrote: post #82
kasey_junk wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But also note the government is punishing people for legal acts as well. It’s perfectly legal to tell a soldier they do not have to obey unlawful orders, in fact in many cases it’s a requirement. But the us military started court martial proceedings against a sitting congressman person for doing it.

Well yes, but you can't tell a judge "yes, I broke the law, but it's OK because the government broke the law first."

Aren't you arguing against a straw man here? It seems that you can't address the concerns of the comment and are instead saying obvious truths as if that is somehow counter to the person you replied to.

Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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Post by blhack »

cultofmetatron wrote: post #55
mikeweiss wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That only works if they aren't U.S citizens... Which if they're working for the gov means they are. This administration is creative they will find other more 'legal' ways for retribution so the punishment sticks.

> That only works if they aren't U.S citizens Ice has already summarily executed two US citizens. one literally on camera and broadcasted to the world.

I think you're talking about Renee Good - who is the other person?

Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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Post by INTPenis »

imzadi wrote: post #92
a2tech wrote: post #3

Between this and Minneapolis I guess the water temperature just keeps on being turned up, and us frogs are just chilling out in our warm baths.

There were over 1000 protests over the weekend. The one I went to in Surprise, AZ had almost 1000 people, in a fairly conservative area with mostly older, white demographics. I think the tide is turning.

Serious question from a clueless european here, who should they vote for?

To us on the outside, getting filtered news that trickles down, it just seems like there are no candidates. One is 79 and one is 83, where are all the young politicians? Why does the media choose to only emphasize a few of them at the time?

Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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Post by fhdkweig »

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #24
HumblyTossed wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't hyperbole. They literally went to the king with gold in hands. There's no WAY they didn't open up their platforms to him.

> They literally went to the king with gold in hands. Exactly what I was thinking about when I was writing my comment. I can understand that big corpos are not our friends and are purely money driven, but publicly bribing the president with gold is on a level no one ever expected. Right in line with the Fifa peace price.

And don't forget the $400 million airplane that is probably filled with listening devices that will feed info to all of our enemies.

Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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Post by sowbug »

squigz wrote: post #21
a2tech wrote: post #3

Between this and Minneapolis I guess the water temperature just keeps on being turned up, and us frogs are just chilling out in our warm baths.

Why has this analogy been repeated so much lately? Did someone famous use it or something? Edit: just to clarify, I'm not denying it's appropriate; it just seems remarkable to me that it's being used so often lately.

Have fun seeing "Baader-Meinhof phenomenon" everywhere.

Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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Post by fwip »

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #15
edot wrote: post #2

"Natanson said her work had led to 1,169 new sources, “all current or former federal employees who decided to trust me with their stories”. She said she learned information “people inside government agencies weren’t supposed to tell me”, saying that the intensity of the work nearly “broke” her." Wow. So they're going to plug her phone in to whatever cracking tech they have and pull down the names of everyone who has…

You must accept that 3 letter agencies have full root access to any Tim Apple or Google device and will use it if they already went far enough to do an FBI raid on a reporter.

Counterpoint - if they have full root access to any phone, why did they need to do the raid?

Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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Post by throwaway38294 »

andsoitis wrote: post #79
joering2 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What difference does it make whether they are US citizens or not? At least DHS is not interested in finding out. And there has been plenty US citizens deported under DHS. https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/118180/documents/... https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-...

> And there has been plenty US citizens deported under DHS. Are you sure? Do you mind linking to information / reporting about that? I have not seen any.

How about starting on the wikipedia page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths,_detentions_and_deporta...

Then you can read the congressional report:

https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/118180/documents/...

At this point this is not an accident it's an intentional policy to spread fear and suppress dissent

Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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Post by joering2 »

andsoitis wrote: post #79
joering2 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What difference does it make whether they are US citizens or not? At least DHS is not interested in finding out. And there has been plenty US citizens deported under DHS. https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/118180/documents/... https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-...

> And there has been plenty US citizens deported under DHS. Are you sure? Do you mind linking to information / reporting about that? I have not seen any.

Sure, since you haven't heard of Wikipedia, or internet in general.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths,_detentions_and_deporta...

Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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Post by mcintyre1994 »

dabluecaboose wrote: post #56
alsetmusic wrote: post #31

It'd be real cool if all the second amendment (guns) people cared as much about the first amendment (free speech and freedom of press). "They're gonna take my guns away!" Yet that never happens. But people are being targeted for what they say, for disagreeing publicly. That's real. And a lot of "patriots" don't seem to notice or care.

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You'd have to be pretty insane to see opposing raids on journalists as supporting "The American Left".

Re: FBI raids Washington Post reporter's home

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Post by rambojohnson »

mikeweiss wrote: post #34
lawn wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or they'll have ICE take them and they'll be deported or made to disappear. Some might even end up dying. That's how the US is right now.

That only works if they aren't U.S citizens... Which if they're working for the gov means they are. This administration is creative they will find other more 'legal' ways for retribution so the punishment sticks.

oh how naive you are... do you not watch the news / go outside?
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