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ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Odd. I thought she was a legal observer. It is funny how quickly the narratives changed given how little traction was gained on 'observer' status.

She can be both, she will become lots of things over time depending on agenda. Her background was decidedly under-reported, for a few justifications, including preventing a preferred audience from sympathizing with the victim. Not sure what your point is other than volume of information available increases over time.

You do have a point. My point is that we are constantly a part of informational warfare and it is getting old. I would love nothing more than people to look at it all with a cold eye and say something akin to: oh, I recognize this pattern. Instead, I attempts of various power centers to frame it in a way beneficial to them. Some of us are rather tired of this.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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All it took was a white mother (and US citizen) getting shot in broad daylight. As much as I hate to admit it, a large enough segment of the population needed something blatant like this to care.

Trump watched the video in front of a bunch of reporters and said "meh". Nothing will change for 3.5 years minimum. 40% of the country thinks he's doing great, and a greater percentage of those 40% vote vs the people who vote from the other group.

If midterms go well, and the special elections last November suggest they may, then at least we may be able to blunt some of the harm.

But the underlying point that about 35% of Americans just fundamentally do not seem to value civilization is a problem that has to be worked around.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Only one side is using a federal police force to murder citizens.

And the other side teases prosecution and never follows through

There were hundreds of prosecutions. Then SCOTUS declared the president immune. Then the bad guy got reelected and pardoned everyone. Then started launched truly malicious prosecutions of political enemies. Cases which thankfully are dying due to lack of merit.

One side is doing all the bad things and the other is simply struggling to stop them. Being cynical helps nothing.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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If we all ditch our phones then how will we record the abuses of power?

Buy a camera. And/or an audio recorder. Or pull the SIM out of an old phone and use that.

I wouldn't assume pulling a SIM is enough to hide the phone's location. The modem will still be powered, the IMEI isn't part of the SIM card and is a unique identifier. Plus last I checked you can still contact 911 without being a subscriber.

I'm no expert on cell networks but my impression is the baseband will still ping towers and participate in the cell network on some level. If the phone gets confiscated or its IMEI otherwise associated with you, it can probably be abused to try place you in an area at a given time even without the SIM card.

Just use cameras without any RF hardware. (they tend to have better optics / zoom capabilities anyways)

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Not use any device that has GSM/LTE, or Bluetooth. Alternatively, broadcast a hidden SSID WiFi AP via an enabled RPi and use only devices that's have WiFi. Hand them out to people for free to increase the spread. Attach magnets to the RPi's and go rogue by sticking them to buses, cars and trains et cetera to increase range.

Hidden SSIDs are generally much worse for privacy than non-hidden ones, since all stations (clients in 802.11 terminology) need to constantly go around yelling "hey, is SSID abc available?" while they're not connected to any SSID.

I was ultimately taking the piss, it'll be radical if someone actually did but I had no idea it caused wifi pollution from this.

You learn something new everyday.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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If we all ditch our phones then how will we record the abuses of power?

Buy a camera. And/or an audio recorder. Or pull the SIM out of an old phone and use that.

A phone with its SIM out is still registering with the network.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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I wish this country had a libertarian right that cared one iota about widespread suppression of civil liberties instead of only whining about taxes.

Its collapse / take-over / mask-off over the last decade (interpretations vary) has been very disappointing.

I mean, FFS, what kind of principled third-party invites the authoritarian "opposition" candidate as the keynote speaker to their convention?

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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If we all ditch our phones then how will we record the abuses of power?

People have allowed themselves to become so dependent on mobile phones that I'm frankly disgusted. You're talking about a scenario where you're worried about being illegally arrested by the secret police -- aided by their tracking of your phone, but it's still not enough to consider using your phone less. It's no different that a rat starving to death but continuing to push the lever for the cocaine hit. [edit] Vote…

yeah it's kind of amazing, just leave your phone at home and the tracking problem is solved (if one even really exists to begin with). If you want to document something bring a simple digital camera. They pretty much all have video and audio capability too. Like how is this not obvious to everyone?

edit: just want to point out there are still cameras everywhere so if you're worried about being found just leaving your phone at home isn't going to do much

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