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Microsoft denies rewriting Windows 11 in Rust using AI

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Re: Microsoft denies rewriting Windows 11 in Rust using AI

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I think I would be more interested in Rust the language if Rust the PR sphere was not suggestive of certain all-powerful online influences that I've developed antibodies against. I'm not claiming that they're the same people that dig tunnels and launch satellites, just that my immune system is getting activated as if they were.

Just say what you mean

I think he's saying that Rust is written by Elon Musk? Who knows.

Re: Microsoft denies rewriting Windows 11 in Rust using AI

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post #67

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It has been approved as the same standing as C and assembly, it is there to stay despite what the haters say [1]. Linus is behind the push and for good reasons. Android keeps demonstrating year after year the benefits, at some point I don't know what else to say. [1] https://www.heise.de/en/news/Linux-Kernel-Rust-Support-Offic...

Just because something is beneficial does not mean it will be taken up by the community. My question is (and that is what I'm most interested in atm) what makes Rust's adoption inevitable? Are there people paying to make that happen? Are kernel level security bugs that big of a concern now that migrating to Rust is a pressing issue? Do you see what I mean? (Again, just to clarify my comment: I'm not challenging anyon…

I think fundamentally it's because it's a better language than C and more pleasant to write.

Sure there will be a lot of old codgers who don't want to learn new things (surprisingly common in the tech industry), but eventually they'll retire or die, and new kernel devs will be very unlikely to pick C over Rust.

The security thing is definitely a driving force but I think probably not that much just compared to how much easier and more pleasant it is to write correct Rust than correct C (in most cases).

Re: Microsoft denies rewriting Windows 11 in Rust using AI

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post #68

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I will that the Rust fanatic mantle thank you very much. Check your sources though [1]. I dont predict the future I just listen to Linus. [1] https://lwn.net/Articles/1049831/

Sorry to burst your bubble but it takes more than Linus to make Linux.

I suspect you wouldn't be saying that if he had agreed with you.

Re: Microsoft denies rewriting Windows 11 in Rust using AI

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Not just tutors- the teachers are also obsolete. And so are the students! AI is summarizing the lessons, writing the students' papers, then grading those papers for the teachers. Time to shut down the entire education system.

AI is writing the lessons too. Like a compiler, we could optimize this by doing no work at all! Once you realize no one will look at any of the results, final or intermediate, there's nothing left to do.

You can quit school if you don't want to do it.

Re: Microsoft denies rewriting Windows 11 in Rust using AI

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Sorry to burst your bubble but it takes more than Linus to make Linux.

I suspect you wouldn't be saying that if he had agreed with you.

I wouldn’t be saying that it takes more than Linus to build Linux if Linus agreed with me?

What on earth are you talking about? Don’t quit your day job to become a detective.

Re: Microsoft denies rewriting Windows 11 in Rust using AI

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I suspect you wouldn't be saying that if he had agreed with you.

I wouldn’t be saying that it takes more than Linus to build Linux if Linus agreed with me? What on earth are you talking about? Don’t quit your day job to become a detective.

Absolutely. If Linus had said "Rust for Linux might go away" then you would have said "See! The creator and leader of Linux says Rust is going to go away!" but because he said it is here to stay you're saying "Pff, Linus isn't that important."

I won't quit my day job to become a detective because actual detective work isn't this trivial.

Re: Microsoft denies rewriting Windows 11 in Rust using AI

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Have you used Microsoft software lately? After they fired the testing people a few years ago, the number of regressions I find at work is nuts.

The testing thing happened like, 10 years ago at this point.

Yeah, Windows 10/11 really suck in terms of quality. New/old Outlook is like a house with random rooms added by people who don’t talk to each other.

Re: Microsoft denies rewriting Windows 11 in Rust using AI

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post #48

From the initial post: > My goal is to eliminate every line of C and C++ from Microsoft by 2030. Our strategy is to combine AI and Algorithms to rewrite Microsoft’s largest codebases From his follow-up: > It appears my post generated far more attention than I intended… with a lot of speculative reading between the lines.. Just to clarify… Windows is NOT being rewritten in Rust with AI. So either he doesn't think that…

My goal is for every line of C/C++ to be rewritten. My goal. Not Microsoft's or SpaceX's or... When Galen says "my goal is ..." I take that at face value but as aspirational.

They also used the first person in describing the position they were hiring for

> I have an open position in my team for a IC5 Principal Engineer. The position in in-person in Redmond

Reading between the lines is what's needed to differentiate that from the immediately following sentences that are also in the first person. I don't think it's remotely as obvious as you're saying that everyone should be able to tell that wasn't the explicit goal the company had given him for the team.

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