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Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down

#101
post #75

I know I shouldn't, but I really can't help myself: https://blog.cloudflare.com/20-percent-internet-upgrade/

What are you implying by linking to that article?

“haha rust is bad” or something, is’s a silly take. these things hardly, if ever, are due to programming language choice and rather due to complicated interactions between different systems.

Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down

#102

https://downdetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetector.... reports that https://downdetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetector.com/ is down, guessing downdetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetector runs via cloudflare!

I don't understand, why don't they just make the whole internet out of down detectors?

Always has been.

Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down

#104
post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We need a set of down detectors that all detect if each other are down, and produce an answer via quorum.

I think CAP theorem says this is impossible.

Only if the internet partitions in such a way that a quorum is impossible. Cloudflare is not quite that essential.

Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down

#105
post #93
post #71

How are these clowns deploying stuff on a Friday, it is unbelievable to me. It is not even funny any more. It seems cloudflare is held together by marketing only. They should stop all of these stupid initiatives and keep their stack simple. And I'm 100% sure the management responsible for this is already fueling up the ferraris to drive to their beach house. All of us make them rich and they keep on enshittifying the…

how do you tell they deployed new stuff?

See https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/incidents/lfrm31y6sw9q

"A change made to how Cloudflare's Web Application Firewall parses requests caused Cloudflare's network to be unavailable for several minutes this morning. This was not an attack; the change was deployed by our team to help mitigate the industry-wide vulnerability disclosed this week in React Server Components."

The bug is known since several days, and the hotfix was already in place. So they worked on the "final fix" and chose to deploy it on a friday morning.

Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down

#106
post #59
post #25

Appears to be fixed now. Just lost 30 minutes of working. If this is unwrap() again, we need to have a talk about Rust panic safety.

Does it make it worse or better if I say it's RSC? https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/incidents/lfrm31y6sw9q

Well, technically RSC was messed up, and then the hotfix for the messed up RSC was itself messed up. I guess there’s a lot of blame to go around.

Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down

#107
post #75

I know I shouldn't, but I really can't help myself: https://blog.cloudflare.com/20-percent-internet-upgrade/

It could always be worse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudbleed

They haven't had an incident that bad since they switched from C to Rust.

Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down

#108
post #71

How are these clowns deploying stuff on a Friday, it is unbelievable to me. It is not even funny any more. It seems cloudflare is held together by marketing only. They should stop all of these stupid initiatives and keep their stack simple. And I'm 100% sure the management responsible for this is already fueling up the ferraris to drive to their beach house. All of us make them rich and they keep on enshittifying the…

If the deployment was related to the React Server issue then maybe it was unavoidable.

Yes, but a hotfix was already in place. They chose to deploy the "proper fix" this morning, and obviously it went wrong. Also they didn't do a phased rollout because it impacted their high-value customers such as shopify as well as claude, causing significant damages. Their procedures are not good.

Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down

#109
post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not build the next cloudflare then, I'm sure it is appreciated by HN folks.

Or maybe we just move away from cloudflare-like services altogether.

Ideally, yes. Maybe someone can build a CDN on top of uncloud.

Re: Cloudflare Down Again – and DownDetector Is Also Down

#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or maybe we just move away from cloudflare-like services altogether.

And just live with high latency?

What is "high latency" nowadays? If people wouldn't bundle 30mb into every html page it wouldn't be needed.

Also cloudflare is needed due to DDOS and abuse from rogue actors, which are mostly located in specific areas. Residential IP ranges in democratic countries are not causing the issues.

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