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Re: LineageOS 23

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That can be easily patched. If you want a full "de-google" experience, GOS is the only perfect option

Funny how the fully "de-googled" experience starts with buying a Google device.

That is going to change soon enough. GOS is working towards having their own device. It's going to take a few years at least

Re: LineageOS 23

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BQ tried that with Cyanogen (the precursor to Lineage) https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/bq-aquaris-x5 As did WileyFox - https://www.xda-developers.com/wileyfox-to-issue-update-to-m... They were both budget brands with niche offerings. For most people, the source of the OS is immaterial. There's very little competitive advantage to selling a forked OS, and a rather large downside in terms of support costs. I'm m…

OnePlus also shipped Cyanogen in their early days. They're still around, but they've long since pivoted to their own proprietary Android distro.

Given that Cyanogenmod was discontinued shortly after the OnePlus One released, it's hard to blame them.

Re: LineageOS 23

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That can be easily patched. If you want a full "de-google" experience, GOS is the only perfect option

Funny how the fully "de-googled" experience starts with buying a Google device.

To a normie non-tech person, buying a several hundred dollar Google phone, only to delete Google from it sounds stupid, like you've set your money on fire.

Yes, I have a Pixel with GrapheneOS.

Re: LineageOS 23

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I immediately put Lineage on all my devices. In fact, I only buy Android devices that Lineage supports. It's a uniform, degoogled Android experience that just works.

What devices do you use Lineage on may I ask?

Pixel 7 Pro, OnePlus 9, OnePlus 6, Minimal Phone MP01 (unofficial ROM), Samsung Gakaxy Tab S5e. Formerly: Xperia X Compact

Re: LineageOS 23

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Graphene is probably better on the devices that support both (Pixels), but since hardware support is so (intentionally) limited, it kind of a moot point. Also the Graphene community is kind of obsessed with "security" and does not seem to place much emphasis on freedom/hackability.

Why the scare quotes? Graphene’s focus on security is legitimate and well founded. They are the only phone OS that is consistently safe from hacking by the likes of Cellebrite long after all other androids have fallen.

I just read that they changed their stance, but for a long time, they were against implementing RCS and said users should be using another tool like Signal. That ignores real world scenarios where users ended up using SMS rather than RCS, which was encrypted with Google messages. Of course, there's more nuance to the discussion, but I found myself a few years ago having gone from encrypted messaging on an iPhone by default to encrypted messaging on stock Android with RCS to unencrypted messaging on GrapheneOS. I thought that was certainly less secure for myself and likely the average user.

But they did share valid concerns about their reasoning and most other aspects of the OS certainly have a great focus on security.

Re: LineageOS 23

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It's great to see Android TV mentioned. Has anyone managed to build a freedom-respecting TV box with Lineage? This is a much needed alternative to "smart" TVs and streaming boxes filled with spyware and arbitrary restrictions.

Nate Johnson, one of the devs at LineageOS, maintains some official and unofficial builds. You could go from scratch using a Radxa SBC, or try to get an older streaming device (like one of the previous versions of the Chromecast). Some of these older devices even got Widevine DRM still working after installing LineageOS, if you want to use a streaming service.

https://xdaforums.com/t/official-lineageos-22-for-amlogic-gx...

Re: LineageOS 23

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> I'm mostly happy with my GrapheneOS device - but it is absolutely not suitable for mass market. What makes you say that? I run GrapheneOS on a Pixel and had to go through the relative simple flashing process, but if GOS came preinstalled on a device anybody familiar with Android (or even iOS) would be able to use it. Compatibility with Android apps is great too.

Off the top of my head: Lots of banking apps don't work. RCS has only just started working. No "Find My Device" support. Permissions model is difficult to understand - even I struggle with it. Standard launcher has tiny icons which can't be adjusted. Pop on to https://discuss.grapheneos.org/ and see the struggles which users have.

> No "Find My Device" support.

I don't have any issues with it

Re: LineageOS 23

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Note, GrapheneOS seems to have been able to secure partner access to Android early security releases, but this comes with the cost that the source used to make these special "01" builds is private until general availability. This might not be a tradeoff that LineageOS is willing to take; GrapheneOS has provided the option on a recommended opt-in basis. https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/27068-grapheneos-security-p...

As far as I have heard they have not actually secured partner access for themselves, they just got someone who has access to break their NDA.

The access comes from GrapheneOS' OEM partner who isn't breaking any kind of NDA.
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