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Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

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Post by pyuser583 »

pjc50 wrote: post #71
pyuser583 wrote: post #24

I'm a parent, and I try to keep my kids from the Internet in general, but adult parts in particular. VPN's are great for this. Just install the VPN, have it block access to adult sites, and have it alert me of any suspicious attempts. It's bewildering how VPN companies have branded their technology as "anti-censorship" and "privacy-focused." VPN's are a censor's best friend. DNS services are taking the opposite appro…

Making your own filter choices should not be referred to as "censorship". Censorship is when the choice is taken away.

I'm taking the choice away from my kids.

Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

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Post by ethagnawl »

syntaxing wrote: post #7

Easily one of the best $20 I spend a year. Makes iOS so much more usable and I really love supporting the vision of the developers from NextDNS

Same here. I'd previously been using a Pi-Hole and Next is just so much simpler -- especially on the go.

Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

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Post by topato »

SunlitCat wrote: post #83
selcuka wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Unfortunately, guaranteeing anonymous internet porno is a terrible political beachhead to motivate "voters" to do anything. Reworded press release: "We protect children from being forced to upload their photos (on their IDs) to adult web sites"

Another rewording: "...to upload your photos (on your IDs)..." :D

Oh yeah, that IS a good point, this verification technique is even stupider than CC number validation in the late 90s!

Then again, these laws aren't about censoring children's access, they're about censoring EVERYONE'S access (and it blows my mind that conservative leaders will come right out and say it, but the average layperson doesn't seem to care or comprehend what a massive slippery slope censorship is -- porn is just the start)

Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

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Post by cluckindan »

selcuka wrote: post #84
shitloadofbooks wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It likely overrides DNS resolution to CDN/POPs in countries which don't require age checking, or routes the traffic through TCP proxies so your traffic appears to come from a different country without these laws. This will increase the latency of all traffic to that site though.

A DNS provider can not route your traffic through TCP proxies, so it must be the former.

Sure they can. When your browser resolves a host, they replace the actual IP with the IP of a proxy that is configured to forward traffic according to the Host HTTP header.

Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

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Post by AnonC »

Sorry to get on to a related topic, since the NextDNS team may be looking at these comments. Is there any plan at all to revive the iOS app (last updated in 2020) so that the toggle in the app actually works? I don’t like installing a NextDNS profile because it doesn’t offer the flexibility to turn it off or on as needed. The app used to work pre-2020, but doesn’t now.

On my iPhone, at any given date and time, it’s just a random occurrence of whether NextDNS (with the app) works or not. Visiting test.nextdns.io may show “unconfigured” or a NextDNS endpoint.

Various posts on the forums by several people over the years have not been responded to.

I’d like to know if the team is ever going to work on this. If not, just remove the app from the App Store so that people don’t assume that it works when it doesn’t.

Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

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Post by topato »

Spivak wrote: post #51
petcat wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> More and more sites (especially adult ones) are now forcing users to upload IDs or selfies to continue. > they might just get enough attention from voters to motivate a change Unfortunately, guaranteeing anonymous internet porno is a terrible political beachhead to motivate "voters" to do anything.

You don't have to sell it like that. The bill that needs to be passed is default presumption that all websites on the internet not explicitly marked as such and who voluntarily accept a higher legal burden and standard of moderation may contain content not suitable for children. And that is up to parents to control their child's internet access to limit their usage to only these sites. Because I don't actually care a…

Ive had massive amounts of trouble convincing people that pornography is just the tip of the iceberg. That's why it's such an effective tool for broaching massive-scale surveillance: the architects of these laws have said that they want to be able to police all content with these laws, and anyone who tries to speak out against them can be painted as a pervert who hates the safety of kids.

Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

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Post by topato »

bunnyfoofoo wrote: post #98

Do not promote or use NextDNS, it's essentially abandoned. You will not get any support from the developer when something breaks, and it will break. I tried for a year to contact him before abandoning it. Just check the help forums.

Considering this is a post from NextDNS themselves, showing off a NEW and awesome feature.... It doesn't seem abandoned? You don't seem to have even looked at the description lol

Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

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Post by lelanthran »

shitloadofbooks wrote: post #62
rany_ wrote: post #56

How does this "DNS trick" work? That to me is a much more interesting detail.

It likely overrides DNS resolution to CDN/POPs in countries which don't require age checking, or routes the traffic through TCP proxies so your traffic appears to come from a different country without these laws. This will increase the latency of all traffic to that site though.

> It likely overrides DNS resolution to CDN/POPs in countries which don't require age checking,

I don't understand what this means:

1. It resolves DNS requests - got it.

2. The resolution sends back an address to a CDN - okay, not sure that I got it

3. The resolved address is in a country which doesn't require age checking - Totally don't get it: how will this help?

Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

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Post by bunnyfoofoo »

topato wrote: post #107
bunnyfoofoo wrote: post #98

Do not promote or use NextDNS, it's essentially abandoned. You will not get any support from the developer when something breaks, and it will break. I tried for a year to contact him before abandoning it. Just check the help forums.

Considering this is a post from NextDNS themselves, showing off a NEW and awesome feature.... It doesn't seem abandoned? You don't seem to have even looked at the description lol

https://help.nextdns.io/search?v=p&q=refund

Congratulations to them, I suppose. They've temporarily returned after stealing money from me. Their service stopped working after renewing my annual subscription and when I went to try and find support, I got silence.

If you're one of the lucky few who's never had issues with NextDNS, I'm happy for you.

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