Am I the only one who found that demo in the screenshot not that great? The user asks for a demo of the conversation ending feature, I'd expect it to end it right away, not spew a word salad asking for confirmation.
Claude Opus 4 and 4.1 can now end a rare subset of conversations
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#102These companies are fundamentally amoral. Any company willing to engage at this scale, in this type of research, cannot be moral.
Why even pretend with this type of work? Laughable.
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#103Anthropic are going to end up building very dangerous things while trying to avoid being evil
You think Model Welfare Inc. is more likely to be dangerous than the Mechahitler Brothers, the Great Church of Altman, or the Race-To-Monopoly Corporation?
Or are you just saying all frontier AGI research is bad?
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#104All major LLM corps do this sort of sanitisation and censorship, I am wondering what's different about this?
The future of LLMs is going to be local, easily fine tuneable, abliterated models and I can't wait for it to overtake us having to use censored, limited tools built by the """corps""".
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#105These companies are fundamentally amoral. Any company willing to engage at this scale, in this type of research, cannot be moral. Why even pretend with this type of work? Laughable.
They’re a public benefit corporation. Regardless, no human is amoral, even if they sometimes claim to have reasons to pretend to be; don’t let capitalist illusions constrain you at such an important juncture, friend.
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
This isn't quite the same as being able to edit an earlier post without discarding the subsequent ones, creating a context where the meaning of subsequent messages could be interpreted quite differently and leading to different responses later down the chain. Ideally I'd like to be able to edit both my replies and the responses at any point like a linear document in managing an ongoing context.
But that's exactly what you can do with AI studio. You can edit any prior messages (then either just saving them at their place in the chat or rerunning them) and you can edit any response of the LLM. Also you can rerun queries within any part of the conversation without the following part of the conversation being deleted or branched
Ah - I appreciate the clarification! Apologies for my misunderstanding.
Guess that's something I need to check out.
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#107This is very weird. These are matrix multiplications, guys. We are nowhere near AGI, much less "consciousness".
When I started reading I thought it was some kind of joke. I would have never believed the guys at Anthropic, of all people, would anthropomorphize LLMs to this extent; this is unbelievable
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#108I really don't like this. This will inevitable expand beyond child porn and terrorism, and it'll all be up to the whims of "AI safety" people, who are quickly turning into digital hall monitors.
That's the beauty of local LLMs. Today the governments already tell you that we've always been at war with eastasia and have the ISPs block sites that "disseminate propaganda" (e.g. stuff we don't like) and they surface our news (e.g. our state propaganda). With age ID monitoring and censorship is even stronger and the line of defense is your own machine and network, which they'll also try to control and make illegal…
What kinds of tools do you think are useful in getting control/agency back? Any specific recommendations?
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#109All major LLM corps do this sort of sanitisation and censorship, I am wondering what's different about this? The future of LLMs is going to be local, easily fine tuneable, abliterated models and I can't wait for it to overtake us having to use censored, limited tools built by the """corps""".
> what's different about this
The spin.
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#1103 Years in and we still dont have a useable chat fork in any of the major LLM chatbots providers. Seems like the only way to explore differnt outcomes is by editing messages and losing whatever was there before the edit. Very annoying and I dont understand why they all refuse to implement such a simple feature.
Maybe this suggests it's not such a simple feature?
If the client supports chat history, that you can resume a conversation, it has everything required, and it's literally just a chat history organization problem, at that point.