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U.S. autism data project sparks uproar over ethics, privacy and intent

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“The fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy” — Elon on Joe Rogan It’s a core tenant of this Curtis Yarvin / neo reactionary ideology that seems to be shared by a lot of VCs

The previous silicon valley giants were to a large degree followers of Ayn Rand. This society selects, grooms and idealises a certain psychological profile.

There's a name for that psychological profile: Sociopathy.

Re: U.S. autism data project sparks uproar over ethics, privacy and intent

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One thing this will do is disincentivize high functioning autists from identifying themselves as autists, which is a very good thing IMO. Just look at this channel https://www.youtube.com/@NationalAutisticSoc/videos . There is a lot of survivor-ship bias on this channel towards high functioning autists who can talk in front of a camera. Just to give an idea to those not familiar with the difference between high funct…

Autism is seen as a large and wide spectrum of many different symptoms all called "autism". Using terms like "high functioning autism" is probably not a helpful way to talk about some color on the spectrum, however.

Source: I am the parent of a child with autism.

Re: U.S. autism data project sparks uproar over ethics, privacy and intent

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I'll quote Kennedy's dehumanizing comments for context, that people can compare the two styles of rhetoric: - "Kennedy said many autistic children were “fully functional” and “regressed … into autism when they were 2 years old. And these are kids who will never pay taxes, they’ll never hold a job, they’ll never play baseball, they’ll never write a poem, they’ll never go out on a date. Many of them will never use a to…

He's specifically talking about nonverbal kids like mine. I'm sorry, it's a disability, and I'm terrified what's going to happen to my kid when I'm gone. I don't think RFK Jr's policies will help and I didn't vote for them. But the amount of frustration I have towards comments like yours that ignore our worlds is immense. At least RFK Jr speaks honestly and candidly. The challenges a level 1 autistic person faces are…

From context, I thought he was talking about 1 in 31 eight-year olds (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/74/ss/ss7402a1.htm?ACSTrack...)

Re: U.S. autism data project sparks uproar over ethics, privacy and intent

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Nit, nobody actually cares all that much about trans vestites . Vest like from vestments meaning clothes. They're cross-dressers. Historically transsexual or transgender (depends on the country which one is the more prominent term) people have been called transvestites but it was a mischaracterization. Someone born with XX chromosomes but who lives his life full-time as a man is very different from a woman who likes…

While you're right on the terms, you're wrong about the stigma on cross-dressing. There is really very little distinction bigots make between their hate for cross-dressing and their hate for trans people. It all falls under a big umbrella of "degeneracy" to them. Even actors in cross-dressing roles are often hated by these people.

I mean there certainly is a stigma, the stigma is probably on average greater than the current stigma surrounding trans people because even Republicans understand gender dysphoria as an illness. Ohio's Republican governor DeWine is, even by Democrat standards a huge trans rights and treatment supporter even for minors. It's legitimately uncanny to read stories about him from back home. But cross-dressers occupy an almost exclusively sexual connotation now that femboy/butch/tomboy/andro occupy the common term for just casually dressing in a manner defying gender norms.

But when it comes to policy actions taken by bigots they pretty narrowly target transgender people. If for no other reason than trying to legislate dress is going to (and has) run into 1A issues for anything not extremely narrowly scoped. Project 2025, arguably the comprehensive policy manifesto for the new GOP only really outlines policy targeting transgender persons.

Re: U.S. autism data project sparks uproar over ethics, privacy and intent

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“The fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy” — Elon on Joe Rogan It’s a core tenant of this Curtis Yarvin / neo reactionary ideology that seems to be shared by a lot of VCs

And then he cries on TV because people are not buying his cars. Can't make that crap up...

The funny thing is it is the autists, who don't respond well to emotional appeals. Is that all it is? That it is harder to influence high functioning ones?

Re: U.S. autism data project sparks uproar over ethics, privacy and intent

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“The fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy” — Elon on Joe Rogan It’s a core tenant of this Curtis Yarvin / neo reactionary ideology that seems to be shared by a lot of VCs

The word you want is tenet A tenant is somebody paying to lease property, for example if you have a landlord, you're their tenant, and by analogy e.g. an Azure tenant is an organisation within the Azure cloud with a unique identifier. A tenet is a belief or principle that is important to some group, for example the IETF's Best Common Practice series are not just RFCs describing a protocol or technology but instead st…

Hmm, thank you. This is by far the best pithy argument for privacy I have found thus far.

Re: U.S. autism data project sparks uproar over ethics, privacy and intent

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It’s interesting to muse about the larger picture here. What is it that makes autism so dangerous? To me it looks like part of an almost spiritual war against empathy/compassion by traumatized individuals trying to fight their own Jungian Shadow.

Autists are just an easy group to target that can't fight back too hard.

It's just the next step on the escalation ladder. They'll come for all of us eventually

Re: U.S. autism data project sparks uproar over ethics, privacy and intent

#109

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“The fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy” — Elon on Joe Rogan It’s a core tenant of this Curtis Yarvin / neo reactionary ideology that seems to be shared by a lot of VCs

The word you want is tenet A tenant is somebody paying to lease property, for example if you have a landlord, you're their tenant, and by analogy e.g. an Azure tenant is an organisation within the Azure cloud with a unique identifier. A tenet is a belief or principle that is important to some group, for example the IETF's Best Common Practice series are not just RFCs describing a protocol or technology but instead st…

Pedant (noun) - a person who is excessively concerned with minor details and rules or with displaying academic learning.

Re: U.S. autism data project sparks uproar over ethics, privacy and intent

#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll quote Kennedy's dehumanizing comments for context, that people can compare the two styles of rhetoric: - "Kennedy said many autistic children were “fully functional” and “regressed … into autism when they were 2 years old. And these are kids who will never pay taxes, they’ll never hold a job, they’ll never play baseball, they’ll never write a poem, they’ll never go out on a date. Many of them will never use a to…

He's specifically talking about nonverbal kids like mine. I'm sorry, it's a disability, and I'm terrified what's going to happen to my kid when I'm gone. I don't think RFK Jr's policies will help and I didn't vote for them. But the amount of frustration I have towards comments like yours that ignore our worlds is immense. At least RFK Jr speaks honestly and candidly. The challenges a level 1 autistic person faces are…

> At least RFK Jr speaks honestly

That's a very strange take considering he's known to spread lies. The very comment you replied to demonstrated that. He says that vaccines cause autism - they don't. He says that "Most cases now are severe." - they aren't.

I wouldn't say his record shows that he is either honest or candid:

https://apnews.com/article/rfk-jr-samoa-measles-kennedy-vacc...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rfk-jr-disqualified-from-ne...

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/jul/19/robert-f-k...

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/01/politics/rfk-jr-fact-check-co...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic...

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/debunking-some-of-rfk-...

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