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Over 90% of U.S. airport towers are understaffed, data shows

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Re: Over 90% of U.S. airport towers are understaffed, data shows

#101

It would probably have helped if they didn't turn away thousands of qualified white male candidates. Instead of simply biasing their hiring based on race. The FAA brilliantly denied anybody who scored too low on their "compatibility" matrix, presumably as a legal dodge. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/faa-embroiled-in-lawsuit-a...

Thanks for the article, it provides no evidence of anything you said.

Re: Over 90% of U.S. airport towers are understaffed, data shows

#102

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The hangup is that the current administration is asking them to resign en masse, not hiring more.

Avoiding politics completely, so the FAA has been systematically understaffed for decades because of this current administration?

> Avoiding politics completely, so the FAA has been systematically understaffed for decades because of this current administration?

The former FAA administrator was pushed out (by Musk) after one year of a five-year term. FAA employees were encouraged to resign (https://www.opm.gov/fork).

The current (or previous) administration is not to blame for the current situation, but the current administration is certainly causing a lot of uncertainly and chaos unnecessarily.

Re: Over 90% of U.S. airport towers are understaffed, data shows

#103

Please just entertain a hypothetical: If it turns out that the FAA was hiring much more slowly than it needed to be because it was unable to reach its DEI goals, can we all agree that we should stop doing DEI for important things?

Couldn’t we just say a hypothetical of the opposite?

If we’re entering any hypothetical it seems like we could say anything.

Re: Over 90% of U.S. airport towers are understaffed, data shows

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Modernizing a system while it is in use is high risk. Absurdly high risk. Might still be needed, but is not a cheap or quick thing.

The implication is some sort of greenfield change-everything-at-once idea? There is no choice but to do the alternative: modify and modernise all our critical systems piecemeal over decades while they are running, covered by the business cliche "We are building the plane, while flying it." We all naively desire (especially politicians) the software concept of the big rewrite, the version 2, project phoenix, Second-Sy…

This sounds like an agreement?

Re: Over 90% of U.S. airport towers are understaffed, data shows

#105

If there is one thing I've learned in the past few days, acutely so, is that the vast majority of people do not understand the sheer complexity of what it takes to have an aviation industry.

People don't understand the complexity of anything and why it cost so much, including the moron trying to make cuts.

And it applies to just suddenly hiring a bunch of people.

There’s no magic solution.

Re: Over 90% of U.S. airport towers are understaffed, data shows

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They're working on multiple technical upgrades already, and some airports have been upgraded. I think better information distribution is one thing. Large craft could have ADS-B (or ATC's view) tracking of a 1-3 mile bubble displayed to them. This would add a check to being blindly told what to do and blindly trusting that others are doing what they're told. You could change certain procedures such as the military hav…

> Large craft could have ADS-B tracking of a 1-3 mile bubble displayed to them. This would add a check to being blindly told what to do and blindly trusting that others are doing what they're told. Already exists, it's called TCAS

That doesn't work with all transponders, right? Many private or military craft don't work with that system.

Re: Over 90% of U.S. airport towers are understaffed, data shows

#107
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> They won't cut traffic for the same reason they are understaffed: money. Raise pay until you have enough staff. It's really not that simple. It's a 3-year training process. There's really nothing that's going to get you adequately staffed in the short term. Sure, that could solve the problem medium term.

If it is 3-year training process is it not the previous administration that is to blame? Surely they would have trained enough people. And it is not like huge amount of controllers were fired just now?

Blame is rarely as simple as “either A or B”.

And while controllers were not fired (we think), apparently most/all of them got an email saying they may be laid off at any time without notice, so they should accept buyouts and quit[1], which might impact absenteeism and commitment.

1. https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-admin-emails-air-traffic-19...

Re: Over 90% of U.S. airport towers are understaffed, data shows

#108

If there is one thing I've learned in the past few days, acutely so, is that the vast majority of people do not understand the sheer complexity of what it takes to have an aviation industry.

A majority of people are not systems thinkers.

Re: Over 90% of U.S. airport towers are understaffed, data shows

#109
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They won't cut traffic for the same reason they are understaffed: money. Raise pay until you have enough staff. It's not always that simple, but sometimes it is. Not everyone could do it, but a lot of people could. You just have to pay them to attract them from more lucrative jobs (which includes training them to do it). Instead they'll pay as little as they can, and occasionally pay to replace an aircraft.

> Raise pay until you have enough staff. Federal workers have just been told to leave: * https://www.opm.gov/fork

I'm not sure how relevant that is to air traffic control. They don't work from home, they are heavily performance and standards based to even get a chance at joining, and there is no clear reason to assume to automatically exclude the air traffic control portion of the FAA from what's described in #3.

The US federal government is one of the largest employers in the world (or the largest, depending exactly how you decide to measure), what is relevant to one area isn't necessarily going to be relevant to every area.

Re: Over 90% of U.S. airport towers are understaffed, data shows

#110

If there is one thing I've learned in the past few days, acutely so, is that the vast majority of people do not understand the sheer complexity of what it takes to have an aviation industry.

Of course I agree with you, but is it that complicated?

There’s a cynical, non actionable POV: “people want immediate gratification” or “it’s all marketing” or “security theatre” or whatever.

Another is: “what design for airline safety gives laypeople the aesthetic experience of safety that also aligns with real safety?”

That’s hard! You can’t just rely on the invisible hand of a market to create that. Someone still needs to go and do it.

I’ve never once read a suggestion for an alternative to the TSA for example. I’m sure people have written whole PhDs about this. Give them a voice. You’re already talking to a very literate audience. Go for it.

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