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In my life, I've witnessed three elite salespeople at work

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Re: In my life, I've witnessed three elite salespeople at work

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So... the thing that made him America's top telemarketer was... illegally omitting the disclosures... which everyone was doing... but also, it made him uniquely successful because many of his colleagues didn't do it? I'm getting the strangest feeling that maybe this guy isn't done peddling bullshit?

sounds like hes setting the stage for a movie script - "wolf of wall street 2"

The wolf of wallstreet 2 should be about the making of the wolf of wallstreet: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52661779 the whole thing is crazier than the original.

Re: In my life, I've witnessed three elite salespeople at work

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I thought this comment was a very clever joke, then I clicked the link and realised it’s an actual summary of the article. Thanks for saving me seven minutes.

It's a summary of the title, but not of the article.

The article was pretty much empty: someone trying to be edgy and making their word count. I didn’t enjoy reading the article and wish that for once I read the comments before the link.

Re: In my life, I've witnessed three elite salespeople at work

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It's amazing how often "illegally" is the American Way. I only wish it were a joke.

"Behind every great fortune lies a great crime"

In this case it is more like “Behind every mediocre fortune is a pretty lame crime.”

Like it isn’t even a cool crime, like doing a heist or something. It’s just tricking confused people by not letting them know about the fine print.

Re: In my life, I've witnessed three elite salespeople at work

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> I know a good salesman when I see one. I was, briefly, the No. 1 telemarketer in the United States. Oh neat, how? > Unlike many of my less successful colleagues, I quickly learned to take yes for an answer; though we were legally required to read a long list of mandatory disclosures to all our sales, I noticed that this often broke the spell and gave people an opening to back out or “wait and ask the wife about it.…

Articles like this are valued not based on how noble is the protagonist but based on how truthful is the account. The latter is of course not granted either but I would be even less inclined to believe a story of an airtight telemarketer.

In general I think it's very easy to _not understand_ people i.e. "how could you". The interesting part for me is when I do understand: "oh this is how". From that perspective I enjoyed this read quite a bit.

Re: In my life, I've witnessed three elite salespeople at work

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Which one translates best into high ticket SaaS sales?

Hire #2 for the first call, #1 to close, and #3 for contract renewals

Damn the #3 part was too accurate

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That's fine, when and where that's legal. Eg even the US has no laws against insider trading in commodities. Similarly, French insider trading laws work on rather different principles than US ones. So it's hard to attach much moral significance to the legal accident of insider trading laws in one place and one time. (And arguably, laws banning insider trading are bad for the general public, because to the extent they…

True, but they also make it hard for a cynical exec to game the system, for instance by shorting the stock and then tanking the company on purpose.

Contracts and laws around fiduciary duties already handle that just fine.

Re: In my life, I've witnessed three elite salespeople at work

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So... the thing that made him America's top telemarketer was... illegally omitting the disclosures... which everyone was doing... but also, it made him uniquely successful because many of his colleagues didn't do it? I'm getting the strangest feeling that maybe this guy isn't done peddling bullshit?

> So... the thing that made him America's top telemarketer was... illegally omitting the disclosures... which everyone was doing... but also, it made him uniquely successful because many of his colleagues didn't do it? And Uber is a taxi company that doesn't own taxis, AirBnB is a hotel chain that owns no hotels. Find a hyper-successful company or person, and start digging. The secret 99/100 times is crime (or incred…

Hotel chains frequently don't own hotels, but rather franchise their name to them.

Similarly, taxi companies are much less ethical than you're implying here. Often more criminal too.

Re: In my life, I've witnessed three elite salespeople at work

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post #87

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It's amazing how often "illegally" is the American Way. I only wish it were a joke.

Americans surely do love to make things illegal.

The occasional, feeble, rarely enforced speed bumps that we occasionally throw up around some largely performative ideal that working people shouldn’t just get constantly ripped off via structural advantage for self-styled job creators almost always lead to temporary increases in broad based prosperity as judged by honest and humane notions of the common good for Res Publica. A limited but meaningful subset of the population was seeing substantial increases in prosperity in the post war period of comparatively high taxation and comparatively high regulation. It sucks that we didn’t extend those benefits to minorities, that was a glaring flaw, but that was fixable without throwing the whole thing out and handing the reins over to Art Laffer and Milton Friedman and other goblins like that.

This is a culture so extreme around its idea of private property and private enterprise that treating human beings as property is a habit of thought as a culture we just can’t seem to quit in spite of a bloody, declared civil war and a thousand violent skirmishes that don’t quite qualify as wars.

We’re now deep into a regression on this that has the typical person struggling via a combination of monopoly and monopsony pricing power enabled by blank check lobbyism that creates de facto indentured status for anyone with a kid who needs medication.

Low effort quips from people who haven’t felt cold or hunger or illness recently enough to remember are a serious part of the problem.

Re: In my life, I've witnessed three elite salespeople at work

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sounds like hes setting the stage for a movie script - "wolf of wall street 2"

The wolf of wallstreet 2 should be about the making of the wolf of wallstreet: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52661779 the whole thing is crazier than the original.

I'm surprised Hollywood hasn't jumped all over that yet lol.
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