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Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by pratio »

dylan604 wrote: post #86
jstummbillig wrote: post #68

So, surveys. "Smartphone users in general are unsatisfied with the existing AI features as the survey recorded 73% of Apple Intelligence users and 87% of Galaxy AI users stating the new features to be either ‘not very valuable’ or they ‘add little to no value’ to their smartphone experience." This could be read as 27% of users, who have tried a brand new way of interacting with their phone, found it useful to some de…

> This could be read as 27% of users Not necessarily. Poll results are not %Pro + %Con = 100%. It could equally be likely that 83% find no use and 27% have not tried it leaving 0% liking it.

I agree. My iPhone usage is mainly to check email/whatsapp/calendar and my banking apps. Rarely take pictures or record videos.

Since my company uses exchange, email and calendar cannot be accessed outside the outlook app, not even by the iOS widgets which renders them next to useless for me.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by brandon272 »

kemiller2002 wrote: post #15

We have a family friend who is blind and a programmer. It's interesting to hear his perspective. His hope and expectation are that it will greatly increase usability. I've been thrown into the usability deep end due to my wife also losing her sight due to an autoimmune disorder, and my dad losing his sight due to Macular Degeneration. Honestly, it sucks, and I mean like rage quitting, phone throwing sucks. (Try it. T…

While I use LLMs I also consider myself an LLM skeptic in terms of its role in upending the world and delivering the value promised by the folks hyping it up most aggressively.

However, using ChatGPT voice mode and considering the impacts on accessibility, especially if that quality of interactive voice functionality is able to be integrated well into the operating systems of devices we use every day, is very exciting.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by bravetraveler »

_heimdall wrote: post #19
everdrive wrote: post #4

This is emblematic of the LLM race in general. We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work, and it’s crammed into every Microsoft product. I’m thankful that my iPhone is old enough not to use LLMs. Companies are afraid of being left behind in the new arms race, but that doesn’t actually mean that the technology actually present use-cases which most people need. (Worse are the meeting summaries or emails which ar…

> We’re actively pressured to use co-pilot at work Unless you work at Microsoft, that's really interesting to me. Can't say I've ever experienced a boss pushing for me to use a certain developer tool.

Not OP or at Microsoft, but also get the same pressure. Our business is financially invested in the hype, so it makes sense.

Less about being able to truly say a lot of people use the thing/find benefit. The first part is fine

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by llm_nerd »

The image playground is fun, but in many ways Siri is worse. Previously I could dictate an entire command + message, and now you have to dictate the command and then wait until it switches to that modality, then sending the command.

Notification summaries are great. A couple of my children tend to message a coherent single thought across a rapid-fire set of messages, which previously was condensed down to something like "Person - 7 messages" and now is "Person wants to know what is for dinner as they are currently on a hike and want to time accordingly". It has provided excellent summaries.

Though apparently it adds some notification delay, though honestly haven't experienced that on mobile.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by vargr616 »

jstummbillig wrote: post #68

So, surveys. "Smartphone users in general are unsatisfied with the existing AI features as the survey recorded 73% of Apple Intelligence users and 87% of Galaxy AI users stating the new features to be either ‘not very valuable’ or they ‘add little to no value’ to their smartphone experience." This could be read as 27% of users, who have tried a brand new way of interacting with their phone, found it useful to some de…

I personally know people that would claim a phoneless phone is useful, right away, without having used the device once, as long at it was released by Apple.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by jstummbillig »

dylan604 wrote: post #86
jstummbillig wrote: post #68

So, surveys. "Smartphone users in general are unsatisfied with the existing AI features as the survey recorded 73% of Apple Intelligence users and 87% of Galaxy AI users stating the new features to be either ‘not very valuable’ or they ‘add little to no value’ to their smartphone experience." This could be read as 27% of users, who have tried a brand new way of interacting with their phone, found it useful to some de…

> This could be read as 27% of users Not necessarily. Poll results are not %Pro + %Con = 100%. It could equally be likely that 83% find no use and 27% have not tried it leaving 0% liking it.

It does say 73% of "Apple Intelligence users". So I would assume that 100% of them are not just iPhone owners but people who have actually used Apple Intelligence, to some degree.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by Daneel_ »

ProofHouse wrote: post #49

I can’t even get iPhone 15pro max insane. But don’t care. Apple is useless and Siri is SO pathetic that Tim Cook should be literally fired by the board for gross incompetence. It can’t even set a timer on the latest flagship device

Are you saying you can’t have apple intelligence on your 15 pro max? Yes you can - it’s one of the supported models.

I’m not sure what difficulty you’re having with timers. It’s quite easy to do multiple timers: “hey siri, timer one hour”, or “hey siri, start a pasta timer for 9 minutes”, or “hey siri how long is left on the pasta timer?”

I use it all the time.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Post by adolph »

hengheng wrote: post #40

Now do the same survey on Siri. I bet the result is going to be the same. The age-old concept of "affordance" in a user interface, where a device announces its capabilities to the user, has completely gone down the drain. Now we're back to mystical buttons that claim to perform magic, and we happily ignore the tedious process of figuring out what just happened, implying that is not part of the User's Experience.

As a light Siri user since the iPhone 4s, I was looking forward to the better interpretation and context window that an LLM service typically provides.

Maybe this is not the case if "Apple Intelligence" is a different silo in the OS.

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