Exploring the Cost and Feasibility of Battery-Electric Ships

Post by Polizeiposaune » Sat, Nov 23, 2024, 2:09 AM UTC

mrguyorama wrote: post #88

Polizeiposaune wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Longshoreman's union "touch fees" reportedly have a lot to do with it: https://capitalresearch.org/article/what-you-need-to-know-ab... https://twitter.com/johnkonrad/status/1840904466310316459 " it’s somehow cheaper to truck containers hundreds of miles and let taxpayers foot the road repair bill than let the union touch it two more times for short sea shipping to work."

It's not the Longshoreman's union fault that truck drivers have zero leverage against their employers in comparison. If every form of transportation had strong unions, the system could find whatever healthy or natural distribution was actually economically efficient. More stuff would be sent by Train and Boat, both substantially more efficient in most cases, and both industries that suffer in the US from being ignore…

The longshoreman's union is acting as a rent-seeking monopolist, which is behavior which is usually frowned upon when the actor isn't a union (and perhaps should be when it is).

Post by Dylan16807 » Sat, Nov 23, 2024, 7:55 AM UTC

mrguyorama wrote: post #88

Polizeiposaune wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Longshoreman's union "touch fees" reportedly have a lot to do with it: https://capitalresearch.org/article/what-you-need-to-know-ab... https://twitter.com/johnkonrad/status/1840904466310316459 " it’s somehow cheaper to truck containers hundreds of miles and let taxpayers foot the road repair bill than let the union touch it two more times for short sea shipping to work."

It's not the Longshoreman's union fault that truck drivers have zero leverage against their employers in comparison. If every form of transportation had strong unions, the system could find whatever healthy or natural distribution was actually economically efficient. More stuff would be sent by Train and Boat, both substantially more efficient in most cases, and both industries that suffer in the US from being ignore…

> It's not the Longshoreman's union fault that truck drivers have zero leverage against their employers in comparison.

If that shipping method is cheaper than a union charge, then the union charge is too high.

Even though yes truck drivers should be getting paid more.

Like, okay, we could pay truck drivers twice as much and now it's only cheaper to truck the containers around 150 miles or whatever? That's still way too expensive.

And a carbon tax doesn't fix this. It makes trucking more expensive but it doesn't make the charge for using a crane less expensive.

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