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Re: Bridge to Nowhere

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Welcome to the enshittified google. It is becoming increasingly useless to find anything that's not recent and popular.

I’m making an effort to switch to Kagi this month; tried it?

It is good, I have been using it for almost a year. But I found the quality of results to have gone down as they seem to remove words from searches now, you have to explicitly quote them. It reminds me of how google behave in that sense.

Re: Bridge to Nowhere

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> Hence the validity of the "do nothing" option. It's hard. If you knew you are doomed that would be a valid option. But you can't know that even though it's likely. And on a slim chance you are not doomed, choosing to do nothing is pretty much impossible unless you already wanted to die and suffer unitl then. As I said, usually you don't randomly find out about tumor in your brain. Usually you learn about it because…

> You don't make decisions in those situations based on some theoretical existential framework. You make them on practical grounds. Do you actually have this much insight into how all human beings make decisions? Maybe we should nominate you for a Nobel in pshychology. More seriously, your confident assertion about how everyone makes decisions is baseless. The whole point is to allow people to make their own decision…

People are unique. Like snowflakes. In one snowstorm. Oddly you were initially all for statistics. Now you think you (and other people) don't fall into it with respect to decision making.

Your "nobel prize" comment indicates that you must be an absolutist (moral, or some other kind) because you've read my comments as it was the perfect knowledge of the matter and everything related, not just my perception of and opinion on it. That's all it is, do with it what you will.

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#103
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Previous poster was pretty clear their advice has nothing to do with religion as such: "Having someone - doesn’t have to be religious to be clear - who has been in those rooms can be helpful." Starting a flame about religion is very not appropriate. Please don't do that.

Falsely accusing someone sharing their perspective of starting a flame is very not appropriate. Please don’t do that.

They brought up religion, please don't do that let's stick to reality.

Re: Bridge to Nowhere

#104
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> My experience of US Christians is that most operate in good faith, and are as open to good mental health as any other group. Some proportion, a particularly vocal portion, have weird views about lots of things. People who think demonic possession is real (again, I am asserting tens of millsions of americans and probablly close to a billion worldwide) are operating in good faith. They actually think that stuff is re…

I'm a Christian, I lived in the USA for ten years, and AFAIK I never met a single Christian who would deny that mental illness is real or who would say that locking up or torturing mentally ill people is a good thing. And I expect most of them believe that demonic possession can also happen. These are not mutually exclusive beliefs.

Do please note that I never said all Christians. But the label Christian does include you and tens of millions of people who think that the universe is 5,000 years old and that at some point in Real History there was a talking snake and fruit that altered consciousness for the rest of all history. If you need help finding such people do a search for young Earth creationist and a note that they routinely publish best-selling books and have their own churches, their own podcasts, and their own documentaries. But most relevant to this conversation they have their own politicians and lobbyists, many of them.

So anytime you bring up your religion I can't tell which end of this gradient you're on. And it's also a gradient that you're choosing to be on and a gradient that you're choosing to bring up.

If you don't think the fantastical elements matter then don't bring them up and don't defend them. If you do think of the elements matter, then I humbly request evidence and will change my mind when you present it. If you want to discuss reality then we can do that without any religion being involved, and that is sort of what the laws of most reasonable places demand when making policy. And if you think that the Fantastical parts of religion haven't impacted law in your area than either you're a very lucky person and don't live in any country I'm aware of or you simply haven't realized how much religion has made your country worse.

Re: Bridge to Nowhere

#105
post #55
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And I started with "As you say we do need better advocacy and more transparency in difficult situations" and I agree with that. I just want religion left out of such topics, because it makes everything worse.

Makes everything worse for you maybe, but that gives you no right to control the discussion. Your reactions are always your responsibility.

Sorry that my requests to stick to reality are seen as an attemtp to, "Control the discussion".

No evidence based medical treatment has ever been improved (reasonable definitions like longevity and real metrics like numbers) by making it religious. The same goes for every human endeavor, religion taints and drags.

At its core religion is belief before evidence and that simply isn't a path to long term progress.

Re: Bridge to Nowhere

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post #104
post #49

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I'm a Christian, I lived in the USA for ten years, and AFAIK I never met a single Christian who would deny that mental illness is real or who would say that locking up or torturing mentally ill people is a good thing. And I expect most of them believe that demonic possession can also happen. These are not mutually exclusive beliefs.

Do please note that I never said all Christians. But the label Christian does include you and tens of millions of people who think that the universe is 5,000 years old and that at some point in Real History there was a talking snake and fruit that altered consciousness for the rest of all history. If you need help finding such people do a search for young Earth creationist and a note that they routinely publish best-…

Yes, I do believe in some things you would call fantastical. https://www.amazon.com.au/Resurrection-Christian-Origins-Que...

> you simply haven't realized how much religion has made your country worse.

https://www.amazon.com.au/Dominion-Christian-Revolution-Rema...

Re: Bridge to Nowhere

#107
post #103

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Falsely accusing someone sharing their perspective of starting a flame is very not appropriate. Please don’t do that.

They brought up religion, please don't do that let's stick to reality.

Please don’t respond to days old comments with the intention of starting an argument. Hacker news is about curious discussion.
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