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Re: Retina MacBook Pro full of Air-style proprietary parts

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Post by dmishe »

jaems33 wrote: post #83
kamjam wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except may be I can't afford the heavy Apple price tag right now and I only want a 256GB SSD and 8GB RAM to get me started while I save up for a few more months for the other upgrades... not everyone can afford to go all out and go full spec. Or maybe i think I'm only going to need the lower spec, but having bought my nice new Mac I find it really easy to use and I'm a bit of a genius at this movie editing thing but…

Pretty sure you CAN replace the SSD later on, not unlike the MacBook Air models. You just need to purchase the correct SSD and connector for the model. The RAM though, you're out of luck. An extra $200 on the build for 16gb is a bit of a ripoff considering that you can get 16gb laptop sticks from anywhere between $100-$150.

usually i agree, but in this case they are non-usual sticks. While i hardly imagine they cost apple 3x the price of usual stick, it is a factor

Re: Retina MacBook Pro full of Air-style proprietary parts

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Post by overcyn »

kamjam wrote: post #85
hexagonal wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note the year. Apple had only recently switched to Intel.

yes, i did note the year, but how is that relevant to here and now? Since they are intel based now, surely that ruling is m00t? Thanks for the downvote, shame I can't repay the favour.

apple transition to intel processors in 2006. article is written in 2009.

Re: Retina MacBook Pro full of Air-style proprietary parts

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Post by ebbv »

kamjam wrote: post #67
ebbv wrote: post #54

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Because all those Nokias and Zunes are really user upgradeable and serviceable right? God I am sick of this idiotic canard.

AFAIK, Nokia and Microsoft don't make laptops. Portable music players are comparatively cheap and disposable in comparison to a £3000 laptop.

Read the post I was responding to. He was talking about iPhones and iPods.

Regardless, if you care about being able to change the RAM, HDD and battery don't buy a MBP. It's pretty simple.

Re: Retina MacBook Pro full of Air-style proprietary parts

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Post by ebbv »

jlgreco wrote: post #60
ebbv wrote: post #54

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Because all those Nokias and Zunes are really user upgradeable and serviceable right? God I am sick of this idiotic canard.

I can at least perform trivial tasks on them, like replacing batteries and storage.

Storage is a model by model issue. Some models of phones and music players have SD slots and some don't.

Do you know how many times I've needed/wanted to replace the storage on my iPhones? Zero.

Do you know how many times I've needed/wanted to replace the battery on my iPhones or MacBook Pro? Zero.

Sure, if the batteries are crap, or the device comes with insufficient storage from the manufacturer, then those are important features because you have to correct a defect in the product.

Regardless, if that capability is an important feature to you; don't buy Apple products. It's pretty simple. Getting into a righteous rage on the internet hasn't changed the way Apple designs their products for the past 5 years, what makes you think it's going to suddenly start working?

Re: Retina MacBook Pro full of Air-style proprietary parts

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Post by kamjam »

ebbv wrote: post #103
kamjam wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AFAIK, Nokia and Microsoft don't make laptops. Portable music players are comparatively cheap and disposable in comparison to a £3000 laptop.

Read the post I was responding to. He was talking about iPhones and iPods. Regardless, if you care about being able to change the RAM, HDD and battery don't buy a MBP. It's pretty simple.

True that, you pays your money you makes your choice.

Thins is, at a few hundred pounds the iPod and iPad are almost disposable, but at a few thousand an MBP is not. I actually was considering buying one of the "lower end" MBP, but because of this it is a deal breaker.

(ps. I don't own an iPad because the memory is not upgradeable or an iPhone because I cannot carry around a spare battery - I travel around a fair bit so these are important factors to me)

Re: Retina MacBook Pro full of Air-style proprietary parts

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Post by reeses »

jpxxx wrote: post #47
rsanchez1 wrote: post #42

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There's Geek Squad, or your smart cousin, or a local computer shop for PCs.

All three of which typically provide inferior service with little expectation of a pleasant interaction or desired outcome.

But they give you viruses from their pirated support software.

Re: Retina MacBook Pro full of Air-style proprietary parts

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Post by reeses »

sitharus wrote: post #12

What do they mean 'virtually non-upgradable'? It's actually non-upgradable! Annoying that I can't upgrade the RAM though, that's the only part I've changed in recent years - because it's so much cheaper DIY.

OWC has SSD upgrades for the 2011 MBAs (I bought one the day before the announcement–I should have waited until suddenly it became an obsolescent part) and I suspect they will develop the same for the new flat flash sticks. They also have a USB/fw/esata carrier for the old drive.

It's all memory anyway. Registers, cpu cache, ram, "hard" drive, etc. I'm happy any time more memory gets closer to the CPU.

Re: Retina MacBook Pro full of Air-style proprietary parts

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Post by jpxxx »

reeses wrote: post #106
jpxxx wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All three of which typically provide inferior service with little expectation of a pleasant interaction or desired outcome.

But they give you viruses from their pirated support software.

Value: added!

Re: Retina MacBook Pro full of Air-style proprietary parts

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Post by michaelcampbell »

Anyone who's been around long enough or has read Jobs' biography has known this to be the modus operandi (and/or "vision") of Apple since, well, Apple was founded. One of the first real company disagreements between Woz and Jobs was the inclusion of expansion slots in the II. They WANT it not to be serviceable; they always have.
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