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The problem is more in the "One of my ram chips went bad, so I had to replace the logic board."
Well, you should have it under warranty in which case it's not your problem. And if it's not under warranty - it's time to buy a new one anyway! ;)
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Well, you should have it under warranty in which case it's not your problem. And if it's not under warranty - it's time to buy a new one anyway! ;)
Not sure why you're being downvoted since this is the exact policy Apple is instituting in this case. Sorry about that.
(Yes, I understand these are serviceable parts, replace above with car battery if you like...)
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#63Ten years ago, a computer's useful lifetime was measured in months. Hardware specs were advancing so quickly that a two-year-old computer might not be capable of running newly-released software. RAM, disk, and even CPU upgrades were necessary to keep up to date. Except for gamers, this is no longer true. Computers without user-replaceable parts are a natural outcome of the fact that users no longer need to replace pa…
The same repair can often be accomplished in an Apple store very quickly.
For example. I bought a Macbook Pro in the USA. I was in the UK and had a problem. I went to the UK apple store, and they fixed it- replacing parts-- in 30 minutes. It doesn't matter that I bought the machine in another country (something that would be a hassle with other manufacturers) and I didn't have to send it off-- I was without my computer for all of the time it took to eat lunch, not a couple weeks.
Apple has radically changed the service/support situation for their machines, and thus they are designing machines to be highly serviceable by APPLE, not by users. These aren't made to be modded, but for apple to be able to quickly service.
I think iFixit is looking at these machines in the context of other players in the industry. You have to service your Dell laptop because getting service from Dell may well be a pain in the butt or simply not possible. That's not the case with Apple-- provided there's an Apple store reasonably close (and if not ,they have pretty efficient mail in service.)
My experiences with PC makers, with consumer electronics makers of all types, and even big companies like Intel have never been anywhere close to this level of service and convenience in the service.
[1] Between me and my cofounders we've had this experience with Sony, Dell and HP. The results we got with Apple astounded one of my cofounders because their experience was that things just didn't work that way-- and in their experience it took several multi-week trips to the repair shop to get their name brand PC repaired, leaving them effectively without a computer for months-- because the maker saved money by outsourcing repair to some random third party repair agency. Apple gets things right by owning the store that does the repairs and can impose quality checks on them.
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> They have a good thing going with the iPhone and iPad devices which are both non-upgradeable: consumers are compelled to buy a new device every couple of years or so. This is no different than any other phone, it has nothing to do with the upgradability (which arguably is better for Apple than other phones since Android's OS upgrade path is slow at best and absent on a lot of devices). Phones get upgraded every cou…
The perceived rate of change in phones has been decreasing for a while. After you have a multi megapixel camera, can show HD video, and do Doom 3 or better 3d graphics the hardware bumps are less noticeable. Honestly, broken hardware and decreased battery life drives a lot of phone upgrades among my friends and coworkers.
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There is no DRM on OS X. The only issue with Hackintoshes is drivers and hardware support.
Nonsense. Of course there is DRM, it's just been thoroughly defeated by the Hackintosh community. You can't install OS X on non-Apple hardware without a hacked install disc or a hacked boot disk. Regardless, you are missing the point. I surely wouldn't install an unsupported and unlicensed OS on any of the PCs in my business.
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https://www.pcworld.com/article/182218/apple_wins_court_vict... A federal judge has dealt a crushing blow to Mac clone maker Psystar by ruling that the Florida company violated Apple's copyright as well as the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) when it installed Apple's operating system on Intel-based computers.
Erm, thought all the new Macs were Intel based now?
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#67This is going to be a trend with Apple. They have a good thing going with the iPhone and iPad devices which are both non-upgradeable: consumers are compelled to buy a new device every couple of years or so. It's pretty clear they're getting rid of the Mac Pro, which is highly configurable (with memory, storage and graphics cards) and thus has a much longer life span. So is Apple aiming for a future where you have to…
Because all those Nokias and Zunes are really user upgradeable and serviceable right? God I am sick of this idiotic canard.
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There is no DRM on OS X. The only issue with Hackintoshes is drivers and hardware support.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/182218/apple_wins_court_vict... A federal judge has dealt a crushing blow to Mac clone maker Psystar by ruling that the Florida company violated Apple's copyright as well as the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) when it installed Apple's operating system on Intel-based computers.
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#69How many upgrades does average consumer make on their MacBook Pro? I'd argue it's ~0.
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This. I think it's also worth noting that for a pro laptop , price is not a major issue, if you're trying to treat your laptop like a BYOB, you're doing it wrong. So: (a) The RAM capacity is limited by the chipset anyway, and on "pro" machines, most people max out the RAM when they purchase or directly after. It's just that now you can't cheat and buy the RAM elsewhere to avoid an apple price premium. (b) The SSD is…
How is purchasing RAM identical to what Apple uses at market prices (rather than marked up by a factor of 2x to 5x) "cheating", exactly? RAM and storage prices fall drastically with time while memory and storage requirements in software increase with time. If I plan to get 3-5 years of life out of my computer isn't it only logical to add on memory and storage when I need it, not all up front?