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Re: TinyLetter shut down by Mailchimp, so I built the letterdrop

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Post by gavmor »

Closi wrote: post #100
gavmor wrote: post #99

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Look, maybe I'm naive but the "technical debt" this approach generates is appalling. Someone's going to have to shave that yak or you'll trip over it on your way to market. Whatever happened to "write code like it'll be maintained by an axe murderer?"[0] 0. https://wiki.c2.com/?CodeForTheMaintainer

What if the maintainer is assumed to be an LLM?

The jury's still out on that one.

Personally, I don't think the GUI's yet been invented which can reliably wrangle LLMs to those ends.

Re: TinyLetter shut down by Mailchimp, so I built the letterdrop

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Post by latexr »

pwillia7 wrote: post #88
latexr wrote: post #51

> secure and efficient Judging by the fact you generated it with an LLM, the quality of the code, and skimming the videos, I’m highly suspicious of the claim and don’t think you’re basing that assertion on anything defensible. Adding “make the code secure and efficient” to your prompt doesn’t make it so. I fear for the future quality of software products. Quality was already going down the drain and LLMs have the abi…

Quality went down at every step along the abstraction train and look at all we have though. I agree it feels bad but I don't have any examples of abstraction loss of knowledge being a macro negative thing other than maybe Boeing planes right now and I'd argue that's corruption more than abstraction

> Quality went down at every step along the abstraction train

Hard disagree. Abstraction by itself does not correlate with declining quality, you can be a very competent developer working in a high level language, or a crappy developer working in low level languages.

Re: TinyLetter shut down by Mailchimp, so I built the letterdrop

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Post by hnfong »

lupire wrote: post #82
hnfong wrote: post #42

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The wildlife photography setup had no human intervention when the photo was created since the monkey took the selfie. In this case TinyLetter was "written" by GPT4o with a LOT of prompting. Have you even read it? https://github.com/i365dev/LetterDrop/blob/main/docs/CDDR/ap... As always, some random person in a tech forum thinks they have all the answers to non-trivial legal questions... I mean, we haven't even talked…

LetterDrop, not TinyLetter!

My bad.

Re: TinyLetter shut down by Mailchimp, so I built the letterdrop

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Post by pwillia7 »

latexr wrote: post #102
pwillia7 wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quality went down at every step along the abstraction train and look at all we have though. I agree it feels bad but I don't have any examples of abstraction loss of knowledge being a macro negative thing other than maybe Boeing planes right now and I'd argue that's corruption more than abstraction

> Quality went down at every step along the abstraction train Hard disagree. Abstraction by itself does not correlate with declining quality, you can be a very competent developer working in a high level language, or a crappy developer working in low level languages.

That's too narrowly scoped and it's not a neg on the people. If you write CSS code all day, there's no reason/benefit to understand EE. It's easier for me to think about giant old wooden ships and how that knowledge got lost/replaced at we built modern navy ships. Find me someone to caulk a boat with Oakum today for instance.
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