I had symmetrical 10GB fiber in Lugano Switzerland 5 years ago. It was ~$30 / month. No commitment.
Utah Locals Are Getting Cheap 10 Gbps Fiber Thanks to Local Governments
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#102I live in the bay area and just got sonic fiber to my house. 49 bucks a month for 10gbe. I have only seen it get up to 8gb in TESTING... I might be able to get to 9. That is a stupid amount of bandwidth. I give it 6 months before I get a call and they fire me as a client. Cause im going to try to use the hell out of it.
Sonic is reselling AT&T fiber in most situations, but they provide their own support which is nice if you need it. If the problem is with the fiber, you are still relying on AT&T.
Not "most situations" for years and not at all for a bit now. AT&T fiber reselling in an area was always a stop gap until we could build out our own offering at that locatuon and offer a better and cheaper product of our own which is more profitable for us to people that were already our customers, which is a win for them and for us.
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#103It's funny. For eons, Americans on the Internet could be relied on to say that the reason they don't have fiber is because their country is big. But their more rural areas get it first and best, revealing the lie everyone tells. But forget that, these ISPs absolutely rule https://www.brigham.net/residential-pricing/ That's so much nostalgia. I adore it!
Brigham City is not really that rural (more suburban), and it's maybe 0.05% of all suburban / rural areas in the US. Not really evidence that "rural areas get it first and best." Most truly rural areas have absolutely awful internet options, or none at all save for Starlink or satellite.
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#104Comcast lobbied so hard to get our local mileage for fiber expansion voted down. When it passed, they suddenly decided they’re going to spend 6 figures worth of money to expand their own fiber backdown (they’re not even to the house). Its amazing when corporations will spend more money fighting something than actually implementing said thing.
I’ve had fiber at my house from day one provided by a local ISP. Comcast came in and buried their own fiber lines (years later) for all the houses in my neighborhood. Soon after, my ISP bumped my speed and lowered my monthly bill. We desperately need more competition. It’s the only thing that actually lowers prices. Also, I will happily pay higher prices to never pay for Comcast again. So they won’t see a penny from…
> We desperately need more competition. It’s the only thing that actually lowers prices.
Unless it's a deep pocketed behemoth coming and stomping out local competition because they can afford to lose money on price dumping.
Though I agree with the general idea of the competition.
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#105> Two decades later and the coalition just announced that 18 different ISPs now compete for Utah resident attention over a network that now covers 21 different Utah cities. In many instances, ISPs on the network are offering symmetrical (uncapped) gigabit fiber for as little as $45 a month (plus $30 network connection fee, so $75). Some ISPs are even offering symmetrical 10 Gbps fiber for around $150 a month:
Congratulations, you've invented European style internet access with prices that almost match, super proud of you Utah.
Personally our local fibre network was built as a joint venture between 8 or 9 companies who then openly compete to run the service to customers so its mostly down to customer service and perks.
A 1gb symmetrical unlimited connection (sold as 900mb due to some legal shenanigans) is about $38 with a 250mb package unlimited going for $24
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#106I know people disagree with me about this. I certainly hate it that governments gave local monopolies to companies like Comcast That said, I'm pretty confident municipal internet is bad thing in the long run (compared to actually competitive markets, not local monopolies) Problems: (1) Unlike say, water, sewage, power - internet tech changes 10gig might seem fast today. In 15 years it will seem slow. Will the governm…
As I understand it, the fiber would be capable of much higher bandwidth in the future, it's the devices at the end that are the bottleneck. They'll be able to keep upgrading for a long time without replacing the fiber that was laid down.
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I can’t even use that much bandwidth. I built an opnsense box (part of my proxmox cluster) and passed through a dual 10gbe nic. That whole PC was cheaper than any off the shelf routing solution I could find. The rest of the network is going to take time... I suspect that im gonna end up with a few fiber runs in the house before all is said and done.
What networking gear do you use inside your home? What router? Do they terminate an actual fiber connection (SFP+) to your home or you get 10GB Ethernet?
Sonic 10G rocks. I use Asus RT-AX89X router, with 2 10G ports, one input from Sonic, one output to 10G switches (Ubiquiti Networks UniFi Switch Flex XG 4-Port 10G).
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're not allowed to. Regulatory capture is running wild.
People really need to cool it with the 2024 buzzphrase "regulatory capture". I don't know which podcast, and I'm almost certain it is some dumbass podcast somewhere, is promulgating the phrase which has been popping up with ludicrous regularity in 2024 to describe every situation where someone is pissed off about something, but the primary reason people don't have 10gbps internet isn't regulatory capture, it is that…
> "20 minutes from Google's Headquarters" is San Jose.
It's also Burlingame, San Mateo, Fremont, Union City...
Or, if the traffic is bad, it's Redwood City, Menlo Park, Stanford, Cupertino...
Or, if you're taking public transit (or walking), it's pretty much just Mountain View.
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#109Wi-Fi speeds Most consumers will connect via WiFi. And that will be typically capped at < 1 Gbps
Wifi 7 is coming and is rated to 11.5-46.1 Gbit/s (depending on channel bandwidth).
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#110I know people disagree with me about this. I certainly hate it that governments gave local monopolies to companies like Comcast That said, I'm pretty confident municipal internet is bad thing in the long run (compared to actually competitive markets, not local monopolies) Problems: (1) Unlike say, water, sewage, power - internet tech changes 10gig might seem fast today. In 15 years it will seem slow. Will the governm…
> Come back to this comment and in 10 years. See what speed competitive markets are at
The promised Utopia which for one reason or another will never come to be. This world where monopolies are not a thing anymore and all that’s there is pure clean competition is, just a dream.