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Utah Locals Are Getting Cheap 10 Gbps Fiber Thanks to Local Governments

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Re: Utah Locals Are Getting Cheap 10 Gbps Fiber Thanks to Local Governments

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They're not allowed to. Regulatory capture is running wild.

They're fucking Google. If they dig the streets up and give me 10 Gbps fiber I will be more than happy to show up to city council and yell the shit away from any NIMBY old fart that says no.

It’s more that CA law makes it easy for comcast to tie it up in the courts forever, regardless of what your city council says.

Re: Utah Locals Are Getting Cheap 10 Gbps Fiber Thanks to Local Governments

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're not allowed to. Regulatory capture is running wild.

They're fucking Google. If they dig the streets up and give me 10 Gbps fiber I will be more than happy to show up to city council and yell the shit away from any NIMBY old fart that says no.

And more NIMBYs will show up to scream about Google overrunning local government.

It is extremely easy to make hugely powerful corporations the villain, for obvious reasons, and this doesn't stop being true in the case where they want something actually good.

Re: Utah Locals Are Getting Cheap 10 Gbps Fiber Thanks to Local Governments

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Comcast lobbied so hard to get our local mileage for fiber expansion voted down. When it passed, they suddenly decided they’re going to spend 6 figures worth of money to expand their own fiber backdown (they’re not even to the house). Its amazing when corporations will spend more money fighting something than actually implementing said thing.

Re: Utah Locals Are Getting Cheap 10 Gbps Fiber Thanks to Local Governments

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Meanwhile I live 20 minutes from Google's heardquarters and I can't even get more than 25 Mbps uplink. Maybe these big internet companies should dig up all the infrastructure in their home turf and replace it?

You live here - you know that that the NIMBYs would never allow that. It took 20 years to run a power line to electrify Caltrain.

The last NIMBY lawsuit on electic caltrain was settled back in like 2017. Hate to break it but that’s just your standard Cali corruption

Re: Utah Locals Are Getting Cheap 10 Gbps Fiber Thanks to Local Governments

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I used to work in one of the participating ISPs. The organization of Utopia was a PITA, but the idea was really good and generally well implemented, with some portable exceptions. My biggest issue is that they take huge subsidizations from the state to deliver internet, then turn that around and outbid competitors for state circuits using the subsidized rate. Not really saving them any money, but it looks good on a q…

Good on them. They are using the same tactics ISP's have used to screw the general public but instead they are at least providing the services they promise.

Re: Utah Locals Are Getting Cheap 10 Gbps Fiber Thanks to Local Governments

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We’ve had symmetrical 1gb fiber owned and installed by our public utilities for almost two decades here in central Washington. Was $80 a month until a year or two ago, then it went down to $60.

Just got gigabit in Knoxville for $65. Which is actually a tough sell since AT&T already offers 300 megabit for $55 and I’m not sure what I’d do with a faster connection. But $65 from AT&T would only get me 500 megabit, so for people who do want faster speeds the KUB option is looking good.

There's more to a connection than speed, there might be data limits, there might be latency differences and it might just be unavailable or expensive.

I'm not from the US, but if it's somewhat economically viable, go for the underdog.

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Just got gigabit in Knoxville for $65. Which is actually a tough sell since AT&T already offers 300 megabit for $55 and I’m not sure what I’d do with a faster connection. But $65 from AT&T would only get me 500 megabit, so for people who do want faster speeds the KUB option is looking good.

There's more to a connection than speed, there might be data limits, there might be latency differences and it might just be unavailable or expensive. I'm not from the US, but if it's somewhat economically viable, go for the underdog.

Speed is consistently higher than advertised (330-350ish), latency is fine, 1 TB/month (it says this, but then also says X GB of unlimited used), and I don’t think I’ve had an outage in the two years that we’ve been here. I’ll be considering it still (just became available last week in my neighborhood) but since I work remotely I have to be risk averse on switching internet providers.
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