If you're worried about climate change you should be all for this. Suicide is the most carbon-negative thing you can do! Well, other than mass murder, I suppose.
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'Suicide pod' is completely legal and approved for use in Switzerland
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#102Remember, it's never too early to write down AND notarise your wishes related to your health and death. Make it plain, make it official, tell people you've done it. That way your relatives and family can't keep you alive forcibly "because that's what they would've wanted" or some other misguided reasons. Mine has clear instructions to pull the plug in specific situations and not to extend my life unnaturally.
And not to forget pre-need is far cheaper and kinder to the family than time-of-death arrangements.
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#103Sarco pod: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarco_pod
It is definitely less crude and less undignified than the turkey brining bag over the head method. Although making the process antiseptic, effortless, or palatable shouldn't be a goal. An inconvenient truth is there a threshold of pain and undignified decline for each person that a humane and orderly exit by their own volition makes it a desirable, essential capability.
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#104There are a lot of deeply opinionated and rather thoughtless statements being made here. Please remember that no matter what your position, others have very different views on this subject. That said, I am somewhat of an advocate for people having the option to end their lives in some cases. I have seen first hand someone do it due to extreme medical hardship and it was intense but positive for them. But there is the…
> people having the option to end their lives in some cases
People nearly always have the option to end their life, unless they are physically incapacitated. It's just a question of how big of a mess it makes.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
And why is that?
Because there's no way back from a decision that you might have regreted the day after, if you were not able to materialize easily?
I am all for requiring, say, 3 professional counseling sessions to discuss the reasons a person wants to end their life. But if after that, the person is still committed to ending their life, I don't believe anyone should be able to stop them. They can always do it with a knife or gun, without anyone's permission - it's just a question of messiness - so I don't think someone else's approval should be required.
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
The idea of "brought into the world" somehow establishes that we were somewhere before. What would that be?
That is a philosophical question that doesn't have a clear answer. Personally, I don't remember anything before the time I was born, it was nothingness.
Do you remember anything hours after you were born? Days? Months? Was it nothingness then?
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#107So is Canada, it’s called MAID https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/health-servi...
MAID isn't a suicide pod, and it currently involves the administration of drugs
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#108> "I’ve always wanted to remove the role [and the] need for professional people to prescribe difficult drugs to use Yikes. It seems like you would want a barrier to entry when it comes to legal suicide...
Most methods of legal suicide today involve a doctor prescribing a cocktail known to kill a person and in many cases, they’re also administering it. It’s uncomfortable for them to effectively murder someone, even knowing that the recipient wishes for this to happen. The pod here doesn’t need to mean that any psychiatric assessments are foregone, it just takes the doctors finger off the trigger (which is a good thing)
Iirc even Kevorkian would have the patient execute the final button-press.
But either way, I think everybody overestimates the cosmic importance of death to people whose careers are waist deep in it.
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#109Is there consensus of what gas is best for the purpose? I read some papers on animal slaughter done with gas and apparently even things like helium, argon or nitrogen are not completely neutral. One horrifying thing I've read is that industry actually often uses CO2 because it's cheap. Which causes hurtful and very emotional suffocation.
Nitrogen: you’re breathing it right now.
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#110Is there consensus of what gas is best for the purpose? I read some papers on animal slaughter done with gas and apparently even things like helium, argon or nitrogen are not completely neutral. One horrifying thing I've read is that industry actually often uses CO2 because it's cheap. Which causes hurtful and very emotional suffocation.
Nitrogen: you’re breathing it right now.
Still somehow some animals can tell pure nitrogen from nitrogen with oxygen mixed in.
For example mice exposed to pure N2 show epileptiform behaviors (same with Argon or Helium but suprisingly not Xenon, maybe because it's somewhat anesthetic as well).
Helium seems to good for pigs.
The trouble is that most comparisons are against CO2 which is alltogether horrible with respect to every quality except the speed of death.
There seems to be not much research on pure nitrogen especially as pure gas.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S175173112...