Let this be referred to as the “Californian Transparent Removal Legislation”. That way we can call it CTRL Act Delete :)
California passes bill to make it easier to delete data from data brokers
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Re: California passes bill to make it easier to delete data from data brokers
#102Re: California passes bill to make it easier to delete data from data brokers
#103Perhaps I'm a radical, but if you do not have a current ongoing direct relationship with the company, then that company should not be able to store and sell your private data. I realize this is probably very contrary to Silicon Valley business models, but I think the issue requires a hard line or else people will just violate it.
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Re: California passes bill to make it easier to delete data from data brokers
#104So every 45 days, the CPPA will tell these companies to delete your data. I wonder how many people realize that that means the CPPA or these companies have to keep a record of some of your PII, so that they can look you up and delete you from the database. Maybe privacy conscious people are fine with the California government keeping their PII?
Oh but the government won't become a new data broker and sell our data to 3rd parties, right? https://hallboothsmith.com/california-dmv-sells-personal-inf...
Re: California passes bill to make it easier to delete data from data brokers
#105Question: has anyone used tools like DeleteMe and Optery to remove their data from the web? Curious to hear thoughts, opinions, experiences. https://joindeleteme.com/ https://www.optery.com/
There are a couple of in-depth threads here on HN discussing the different companies you mentioned.
Here is one in particular that includes some people sharing reviews, plus Optery's CEO going into detail on the different data removal companies: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30605010
If you're interested in these services, a good approach is to sign up for each company’s free scan and compare the results.
Full disclosure: I am on the team at Optery
Re: California passes bill to make it easier to delete data from data brokers
#106I've been quite pleased with California and the CCPA thus far. I've submitted a few deletion requests a now, and despite my jadedness all but one went through without a hitch. I reported the one to the California AG and within two weeks the AG had followed up on it and forced the company to delete my data and the company fixed their processes. Color me slightly less jaded.
Of course, it's all still a manual process. Requiring that the deletion of PII be a "single button click" would be great. And making all data collection opt-in, instead of forcing me to fill out Do Not Sell My Data forms on every single website. But the Act mentioned in this article will be the third "Change Logs" we've gotten to the CCPA since its passing seven years ago. So, again, color me less jaded; it seems California is slowly and steadily clawing back our rights. Good on us!
Re: California passes bill to make it easier to delete data from data brokers
#107I'm curious how this will work if we want to delete our data from this site. Will children posts be deleted, or will it just say [deleted].
Furthermore, if someone trains an AI on your data, does the AI have to be "untrained?" If not, I doubt this will have too much effect for some applications.
Re: California passes bill to make it easier to delete data from data brokers
#108Question: has anyone used tools like DeleteMe and Optery to remove their data from the web? Curious to hear thoughts, opinions, experiences. https://joindeleteme.com/ https://www.optery.com/
I used OneRep for a while, but moved to Optery after finding OneRep seemed to be a bit shady.
What seemed shady about OneRep?
Re: California passes bill to make it easier to delete data from data brokers
#109So every 45 days, the CPPA will tell these companies to delete your data. I wonder how many people realize that that means the CPPA or these companies have to keep a record of some of your PII, so that they can look you up and delete you from the database. Maybe privacy conscious people are fine with the California government keeping their PII?
This seems fine? PII isn't in and of itself sensitive, it's using PII to link individuals to purchases, actions, other data that's problematic.
Facebook knowing my name isn't that bad, facebook knowing that some individual bought "Hunky Firefighters Pt 7" isn't that bad. Facebook knowing that I'm the individual that bought "Hunky Firefighters Pt 7" is exactly what I would want to prevent.
Re: California passes bill to make it easier to delete data from data brokers
#110Question: has anyone used tools like DeleteMe and Optery to remove their data from the web? Curious to hear thoughts, opinions, experiences. https://joindeleteme.com/ https://www.optery.com/
I've been using DeleteMe. It generally works well, with two caveats:
1. They seem to largely rely on automated or semi-automated workflows, and that sometimes breaks down. For me, they removed ~95% of the stuff, but I could still find some breadcrumbs in web searches, and need to file a couple more opt-outs manually. It might be less of a problem if your online footprint is small.
2. They target "frontend" sites, rather than the actual data brokers. This cleans up search results, but doesn't necessarily remove from the commercial databases that are available to commercial and institutional users. Because the frontends come and go, it also means that if you cancel your subscription, you will probably go back to square one in 2-5 years.