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Orb is a free and open source web desktop

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Re: Orb is a free and open source web desktop

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Post by BanazirGalbasi »

akho wrote: post #73
BanazirGalbasi wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I can see myself using this to access my homelab from work without having to open extra ports. Since I can't install a personal VPN client on my work machine, a web-based desktop behind a login would give me most of what I want.

Why not guacamole or smth

Guacamole was actually my first choice and it's what I used a year ago. In that time span I've screwed up enough that my lab actually needs a whole rebuild, so I'm looking at alternatives to see what could be swapped over. As it is, I think Guacamole remains my first choice. I was just responding to the question of what this could be used for.

Re: Orb is a free and open source web desktop

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Post by nrdgrrrl »

samsquire wrote: post #99

I really like the idea of a web based desktop, but I would like to see innovation in the user interfaces of computers. One idea I am playing with is the idea of "thunking" behaviours on a graphical user interface by chaining together operations, like a typed runqueue. You can interact immediately with what is on the screen but you are presented with options as if the operation was successful and then you can queue up…

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Re: Orb is a free and open source web desktop

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Post by bokchoi »

calini wrote: post #6
ChymeraXYZ wrote: post #4

General question: Is there an actual use for this kinds of projects, beyond showing what can be done? I have seen many different "web desktop" projects and while most of them were impressive in their own (technical) ways, I could never see the an actual use case for them.

My Synology NAS uses something like this for its navigation and even if it's initially strange, you instantly miss it when you access it from your phone, when the UI turns into this nested list which is not intuitive at all

I also like the Synology UI. It is helpful to see multiple apps at the same time and is especially useful when moving files around to have two or more file browser windows open.

Re: Orb is a free and open source web desktop

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Post by ComodoHacker »

rchaud wrote: post #89
ComodoHacker wrote: post #42

Their demo[0] session is actually shared among all visitors, with all expected consequences like spam, dickpics etc. 0. https://desktop.leisink.net/

That would explain why the demo login appears to have been disabled. The button is still there, but it tells me the auto-filled demo PW is incorrect.

Works for me, but ReadMe says: "The content of this demo account will be reset every 5 minutes."

Re: Orb is a free and open source web desktop

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Post by JeremyNT »

throwaway60707 wrote: post #79
Tade0 wrote: post #78

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SPAs are here due to organisational, not technical reasons. For large organisations it's easier to manage a team of workers with narrow specialisations than a single, but almost equally productive developer like here. It's particularly visible in banking applications, where modules are almost completely independent and built by non-overlapping teams, so they take forever to load due to the limitation on concurrent re…

I've been evaluating some self-hosted/open source company management systems this weekend. Most of them are classic multi-page PHP apps. It's terrible. I can't stand how it always reloads each time I click on something. I remember it didn't bother me much in the past when everything was like that, but today we have much better options. I went for a SaaS built as a SPA. When I click on something, for example to create…

You really don't need an spa for this. You can do the same ux with Turbo from Hotwire (and before it Turbolinks) and traditional server side rendering.

Re: Orb is a free and open source web desktop

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Post by rchaud »

capableweb wrote: post #100
rchaud wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So? The jQuery code still works regardless of when the browser decided to catch up. I picked up jQuery because JS in browsers weren't cross-compatible for ages. I don't see a need to stop unless jQuery stops being cross-compatible.

> So? The jQuery code still works regardless of when the browser decided to catch up. So, it's not needed anymore. I also started using jQuery in order to get cross-browser support for handy stuff, but since that stuff is now cross-browser without using any 3rd party libraries at all, there is no need to use extra bandwidth and CPU cycles from your users to download something that basically already exists.

Most of the world's bandwidth is being used to stream Netflix and Youtube. I think the web will be OK if my site sends a network request for an 87KB script every now and then.

Re: Orb is a free and open source web desktop

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Post by ranting-moth »

outsidetheparty wrote: post #60

Went to the demo, instinctively used `cmd-w` to close one of the "desktop" windows, and was quickly reminded of one of the limitations of building an application like this inside a browser. Note to developer: you may want to add an `onbeforeunload` handler

ROTFLMAO!

Re: Orb is a free and open source web desktop

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Post by amiga-workbench »

rchaud wrote: post #85
amiga-workbench wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

jQuery is completely unnecessary now, you can use the built in element selectors to do all the same stuff without pulling a huge lib in. The value in jQuery was acting as a shim to smooth over IE's deficiencies back in the day. Now, its a waste of bandwidth.

It's at 87KB these days for the minified production version. There are corporate logo PNGs that are bigger in size.

That's larger than all of the JS business logic in most of my applications and comparable to some of my stylesheets. For mobile users it all adds up, and not everybody has fantastic reception all the time.

You're not wrong about logos, but I find that webp will often squish that sort of thing down to 10-15k.

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