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G/O media will make more AI-generated stories despite critics

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Re: G/O media will make more AI-generated stories despite critics

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I think it confuses things immensely to anthropomorphize large language models. LLMs don't lie or tell the truth they just spit out text that is in alignment with the training model. Don't give them agency they don't have.

This is to fight back against the term "hallucinate" that everyone on here is using

What should I be calling the things that LLM's "make up" that simply don't exist?

Re: G/O media will make more AI-generated stories despite critics

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It's the natural evolution of content marketing & SEO. I work at an IT company where we have ~15 ppl building and managing a few SaaS apps for the travel industry, and we have 50-60 ppl doing marketing as a service for our customers. They write page after page of content that barely get read. It all just exists to make the google bot happy. And that works. They bring in more customers & revenue apparently. (honestly,…

Those 60 people can have a new job: fact checking the lies that the new ais produce

Jobs to fact check the lies profit motivated humans generate should already exist.

Re: G/O media will make more AI-generated stories despite critics

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Even if I’m not using Chrome, if I search for a term and the first link isn’t helpful, I would quickly go back to the search results and click another link. Google should be able to get a signal from that

Yes, they get the signal. Let me remind you, Google want you to see more ads so the sooner you find your information the less time you linger around. If they use that signal, their best interest is to bury your optimal result further down.

Enshitification of your product seems like a bad idea.

Re: G/O media will make more AI-generated stories despite critics

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Yes and when you’re using “serverless” services there are actually servers running somewhere. At this point, it’s not insightful for someone to mention either on HN.

If we are going to expand the discussion to general inaccuracy in human communication we are going to need a much larger thread. I do agree with you that "serverless" is a misnomer and not a useful technical term. I'm guessing the marketing team wasn't fond of "dynamically provisioned and auto-scaled pool of virtual machine instance-based services".

So then should we also get rid of terms like “bugs in code”, “viruses” as it relates to computers, etc?

In a technical forum, most people have the domain specific knowledge and the “well actually” is not actually needed.

Re: G/O media will make more AI-generated stories despite critics

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My suspicion is there will be a lot of new jobs that revolve around verifying random internet content or school work and such, not to tell if it is LLM generated but to simply validate the facts claimed in the post,essay,video,etc... I don't see why this can't be an economy either, a reputation scoring and content validity notarizing economy. Business idea! Lol.

I think a new rise of trusted publishers is more likely than professional information-vetting services/jobs becoming widespread. It's sort-of the same thing, I guess, but with the due diligence up front rather than trying to sort out what's good from the vast sea of information pollution after the fact. Most really good material is already better found in books (even if ebooks) from real publishers than by trawling t…

You could be right. With certificate authorities for example they are used to establish trust. How do you know what site is trustworthy? How do you know which resume isn't ML crafted? How do you prove your pic/video isn't fake? What fact checking sites do now but at scale and commercial is what I had in mind.

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It’s a reasonable way to describe it. LLMs are designed to talk like humans so using human terms to describe them works quite well

Lying is intentional . A statement which is untrue is not by itself a lie, the thing which makes it a lie is the intention of the person. AIs do not have intentions, the only thing in an AI is a statistical model of how likely words appear in certain contexts. "Hallucinating" is a much better term, even though it still pretends a staristical model is akin to a human.

I guess that’s true. LLMs don’t really have intentions but there are some AIs that take actions to achieve a goal that can probably be described as having intentions

Re: G/O media will make more AI-generated stories despite critics

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Well, of course. We use Ai as a toy, just like the very first movie directors. to shock, sensationalize, and otherwise grab eyeballs and elicit a strong response. we're the dumbest apes, how could we do anything different than throw poo when presented with a novel situation?

Ironic that you're downvoted by the Certified Experts that love telling people we're nothing more than "stochastic parrots".
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