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Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Post by ddmichael »

nyolfen wrote: post #96
ddmichael wrote: post #14

I may as a composer be biased but AI "generating" music is just sad. The hypocrisy is that musicians have been suing each other for intellectual property reasons, while this thing is being trained on everyone's music. The law should catch up on this. I get that it's going to improve but for now it's also just elevator/supermarket music.

> while this thing is being trained on everyone's music. haha, did you conceptualize music ex nihilo?

We don't need IP cases in courts people, nyolfen resolved them all with his unbeatable argument

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Post by seydor »

ben_w wrote: post #49

So, CC-BY-NC licensed model weights, and they've made sure to license the training data. And some jurisdictions are saying that copyright cannot be claimed on the output of such models. Oh, to be a fly on the wall in RIAA corporate offices… Sans schadenfreude, I think this (depending on inference speed) could be perfect for dynamic content in games (including IRL games: LARP, escape rooms, table top games, etc.)

Well , a lot of artists have sued other artists for plagiarizing. Now MusicGen will be called to testify in court and show is composing method. And if it can't prove innocence, it will be put in jail

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Post by Riverheart »

flangola7 wrote: post #77
tumult wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Computers aren’t human. Software isn’t people.

Define people. Or more specifically, define what make them special.

This isn’t about specialness, it’s about the foundations of civil society. People are meat and guts humans.

We’re autonomous entities capable of higher reasoning, limited in time, attention and talent and eventually die allowing new people time to flourish.

We also pay taxes and make silly arguments about software and humans being no different from each other because it justifies our ability to play with cool toys without considering the impact on other people. Corporations aren’t people though because they aren’t cool like AI.

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Post by seydor »

tumult wrote: post #45

I don’t understand what’s motivating certain types of people to continue working on these types of AI practical implementation projects. There’s nothing good for the world this (type of AI in particular) will offer. Maybe someone will say this will let people who aren’t musicians express themselves by creating music. That’s not true. It’s as true as hiring a musician to make a song for you, given a description. And n…

of course there is a lot of good. Not just elevator music, this could be used to make music samples for DJs .

And every tech advance has side effects , usually in unforeseen ways

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Post by jimbokun »

yantrams wrote: post #53

I'm just weirded about the fact that conversation about something AS EPIC AS THIS is so boring and rudderless here on hacker news of all places. I mean like YESTERDAY I did not have this superpower to summon something as majestic as say https://fb.watch/l4ssOD40M4/ with a simple 'A quirky and skronky Aphex twin sample that just hits you' Edits: I woke up to this news delivered from Yann Lecun himself in the morning o…

Because we like music for the fun of making it, and the shared emotional connection felt with the artist (whether it's real or not, knowing a human wrote and performed a piece allows you to imagine this connection).

I don't know what the point of machine generated music is. Just destroying one of the few remaining ways for people to make a living doing something creative, I guess.

The promise of automation was to have machines do the things we don't want to do, so humans could have more time to do things we enjoy.

Instead, we are automating the things humans enjoy, and still leaving humans to figure out how to feed, house and clothe ourselves through the sweat of our brow.

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Post by jimbokun »

rubicon33 wrote: post #7

Maybe I'm just getting older but I feel like the quality of both music and film has seriously declined over the last 5-10 years. Maybe the good stuff is still out there but lost in a sea of average garbage that has surfaced to the top. Something tells me AI isn't going to rescue us either. I just sampled a bunch of these generated tracks and they immediately remind me of the average, mediocre, soul-lacking content th…

I haven't been able to find it in years, but I remember an Onion headline saying "Music and movies were best when you, the reader, were 12 years old."

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Post by enricozb »

tomjakubowski wrote: post #75
yantrams wrote: post #53

I'm just weirded about the fact that conversation about something AS EPIC AS THIS is so boring and rudderless here on hacker news of all places. I mean like YESTERDAY I did not have this superpower to summon something as majestic as say https://fb.watch/l4ssOD40M4/ with a simple 'A quirky and skronky Aphex twin sample that just hits you' Edits: I woke up to this news delivered from Yann Lecun himself in the morning o…

that's cool but also sounds nothing like aphex twin. sort of four tet-ish maybe

Reminds me of his "Change" off of "26 mixes for cash": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecHLSoJeAAA

However, that's from a sampled drum beat. I generally agree though that this generated snippet doesn't remind me of Aphex Twin much at all.

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Post by tumult »

arrosenberg wrote: post #92
tumult wrote: post #45

I don’t understand what’s motivating certain types of people to continue working on these types of AI practical implementation projects. There’s nothing good for the world this (type of AI in particular) will offer. Maybe someone will say this will let people who aren’t musicians express themselves by creating music. That’s not true. It’s as true as hiring a musician to make a song for you, given a description. And n…

> Maybe someone will say this will let people who aren’t musicians express themselves by creating music. I'd say it lets me, a non-musician, create generic tracks for other projects that need music, but don't need the Lord of the Rings soundtrack. If you want the insane soundtrack, you still need an artist, as this project demonstrates.

There’s already an endless supply of free and royalty free music in every style. While an AI can now also generate that for you as well, it was not necessary to create the AI to meet your goal and requirement.

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Post by polytely »

the_only_law wrote: post #33
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A flood of garbage film/music has always existed, we just don't remember it because its uninteresting. However, I think modern rec algorithms (like the Netflix home page) are recommending more mediocre stuff than the old system, and the streaming boom did produce an abnormal glut of junk. Anyway I think AI is going to spawn a music remixing/game modding/tv extending renaissance. They perform much better when pointing…

I won’t speak to music, as I listen to a lot of stuff, enough to know there is good stuff out there being made. But for movies and TV? Where do I find the good stuff? It seems Hollywood is creatively bankrupt and just milking people off boring franchises and cheap nostalgia through crappy remakes and sequels. My eyes rolled to the back of my head when I saw an ad for a show called “how I met your father” on Hulu.

just follow writers and creators you like, note which actors have good taste, follow them from project to project.
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